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Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........?

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2011/04/06 10:40:47 (permalink)
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Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........?

Hi All
 
I am looking to do a 3rd cycle some point soon and wanted to get some ideas as to possible choices.
 
My goal is to get to about 90kg in weight with around 10% BF
 
Currently I am 83kg with 15% BF
 
Previous cycles I have done was firstly H-DROL then 2ND i went with EPI stacked with Tren
 
I know it may be an idea to maybe cut to close to 10% before then looking to bulk, if so is there anything to aid this?
 
Thanks in advance
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    Re:Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........? 2011/04/06 11:56:39 (permalink)
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    Losing 5% bodyfat, and gaining enough muscle to get up to 90kg from 83kg.... which would be more than just 7kg of muscle, is a challenge that IMO is not suitable to 1 cycle alone.
     
    I would look to using this cycle to put on some quality mass, and maybe leaning up slightly.
     
    eg
    stanodrol or pstanz for 5 weeks (to help with leaning)
    and introduce SD for 3 weeks before PCT
    cycle support: assist, support, or n2guard
     
    PCT: serm for 4 weeks
    creatine
    test booster: bioforge, testforce2 or hcgenerate
     
    eat very clean, but increase total intake with the aim of putting on as much muscle as possible, whilst minimising fat gain... or possible losing some fat. Then a few weeks after PCT, you could start cutting with the help of fat burners
     
    but thats just my idea.
     
    post edited by m118 - 2011/04/06 11:57:49
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    Re:Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........? 2011/04/06 12:13:27 (permalink)
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    I think m118 is right - you are asking/expecting too much.
     
    A non-meth leaning PH run alongside a more traditional bulker like suggested above is a good way to go.
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    Re:Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........? 2011/04/06 14:03:13 (permalink)
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    What were you're results like on the Epi/Tren and how long did you run that for?
     
    But your goals are not likely to materialize on orals only. Unless you did some crazy bridging/stacking with multiple compounds and are okay with hospitalization :)
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    Re:Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........? 2011/04/06 20:03:26 (permalink)
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    They are right! These results are not suitable in just 1 month.

    I like the suggestion of a non-methyl PH before a methylated DS/PH. This would make a very nice cycle!
    post edited by JayJo - 2011/04/06 20:05:31

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    Re:Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........? 2011/04/09 16:57:18 (permalink)
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    the way i see it you have a few options
     
    1- you could just go for a big mass gains on something like SD/PP or similar but likely gain some BF%
     
    2- if Epi/tren stack was good for you run it again aiming for a lean bulk

    3- recomp using probably hdrol or epi and then re-evaluate your choices for next cycle based on results
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    Re:Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........? 2011/04/10 20:30:17 (permalink)
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    cut symmer is approaching
     
    bang out the cardio and hypertharpy
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    Re:Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........? 2011/04/12 18:33:41 (permalink)
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    What about just running P MAG or CYNOSTANE for 5 weeks then looking to cut.
     
    Tren/Epi was good but I got gyno from it which I have now got rid of thankfully!
     
     
    post edited by loyalroyal - 2011/04/12 18:49:19
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    Re:Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........? 2011/04/13 08:43:37 (permalink)
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    Would not run Cynostane personally.
     
    You can of course do this but think about the reality - you do a cycle really to get stronger and in turn bigger. If as soon as you are done you are going to start cutting and trying to lose weight you will lose strength and size - kind of makes the cycle a bit of a waste.
     
    I would cut right down then run a cycle to gain lean.
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    Re:Recommendations for Next Cycle Based on Stats And Goals.........? 2011/04/13 14:02:10 (permalink)
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    jw390898

    Would not run Cynostane personally.

    You can of course do this but think about the reality - you do a cycle really to get stronger and in turn bigger. If as soon as you are done you are going to start cutting and trying to lose weight you will lose strength and size - kind of makes the cycle a bit of a waste.

    I would cut right down then run a cycle to gain lean.

     
    Yes this seems logical to me, i will look to continue on a cut just thought that maybe P mag or cyno while eating clean wouldnt do any harm in packing on some lean gains while keeping fat at minimum increase
    post edited by loyalroyal - 2011/04/13 14:07:56
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