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2014/11/18 12:34:53 (permalink)
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Rich Piana, on Supplements Video

Just watched this and found it very interesting. 
 
I'd like to know others thoughts, it was a bit  concerning for me about the protein content in the powders not being as advertised.
 
He also mentioned quest bars and that set a few alarm bells off for me 
 
http://romanoroberts.com.mx/quest-bars-actual-nutritional-information-differs-from-label-lawsuit/
 
Anyone have any knowledge of this?
 
Video links below for those interested, if this does hold true to the quest bars might ditch them now after i finish off my last 6
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PERID-DHnBE
 
 *** just to edit I dont really know much about Rich Piana and I stumbled onto this linked from other videos. The guys on this video do seem quite straight forward and upfront though.
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/18 13:14:48 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby The_Lone_Wolf 2014/11/18 13:43:09
I like his videos but he's a complete hypocrite - spent years working for mutant selling their products, leaves them and tells people powders are junk and not to buy them.

Also tells people not to trust prop blends then launches one himself.
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/18 13:29:50 (permalink)
what about the comments made mate, do you think there's any truth to it or an exaggeration? 
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/18 13:44:43 (permalink)
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what about the comments made mate, do you think there's any truth to it or an exaggeration? 




Well I won't comment on the whole quest lawsuit thing, and I assume that is still on going? 
 
In terms of protein companies not correctly labelling products etc... There was a huge thing made about this in the past, especially in the states, so I think he is wisely jumping on this bandwagon to promote his own line. 

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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/18 13:50:53 (permalink)
As above you need to filter the information, everyone has a bias.
Nothing separates opinion like supplements.

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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/18 14:59:15 (permalink)
I've zip all comment on the quest claims as I've not had chance to read anything.

I'm repping GN on the bodybuilding.com forums aswell as here and the amount of alleged protein spiking & mislabelling accusations is staggering.
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/18 17:03:24 (permalink)
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I've zip all comment on the quest claims as I've not had chance to read anything.

I'm repping GN on the bodybuilding.com forums aswell as here and the amount of alleged protein spiking & mislabelling accusations is staggering.



I suppose there is no easy way to test protein content of a batch?
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/19 08:37:44 (permalink)
No. Nitrogen testing hides spiking. And it's the default trading standard test

 
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/19 08:45:41 (permalink)
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No. Nitrogen testing hides spiking. And it's the default trading standard test




Mobster, as a man of the supplement world and plenty of wisdom in the trade, how much faith do you put in COA's?

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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/19 10:24:18 (permalink)
I would like to read your thoughts as well Mobster
 
Is anyone familiar with the protein product they were talking about made with cream?
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/19 10:41:21 (permalink)
I heard something about Quest Bars using some ingredient that was quite controversial. I think it was one of the fibres or polyols maybe.

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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/19 11:26:33 (permalink)
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No. Nitrogen testing hides spiking. And it's the default trading standard test




Mobster, as a man of the supplement world and plenty of wisdom in the trade, how much faith do you put in COA's?




In my opinion C of A's on a company website are worthless... If a company is willing to lie about the contents of a product on their label and/or web page, what makes anyone think that the C of A would tell the truth?
 
The only C of A you should trust is one you have paid for yourself. But even then as Mobster says the regular (cheap) test is just for Nitrogen, and cheap amino acids that are less expensive than Whey, but 100% Nitrogen can easily fool the test..
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/19 13:03:23 (permalink)
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No. Nitrogen testing hides spiking. And it's the default trading standard test




Mobster, as a man of the supplement world and plenty of wisdom in the trade, how much faith do you put in COA's?


Given the choice between no CoA and a CoA I'll take seeing one over not.

 
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/19 13:05:28 (permalink)
I like Rich and what he's acheieved for himself (damn nice house, cars, watches and even his bod to some degree) but as others have pointed out when it comes to supps he's a double standard.

 
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/30 11:52:23 (permalink)
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I like his videos but he's a complete hypocrite - spent years working for mutant selling their products, leaves them and tells people powders are junk and not to buy them.

Also tells people not to trust prop blends then launches one himself.

He also says there's no such thing as over training just under eating.
So if you can eat as fast as you can train....LOL
 
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/30 12:51:45 (permalink)
^Isn't there some truth to that?

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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/30 13:08:55 (permalink)
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^Isn't there some truth to that?


Dorian Yates has the complete opposite view which I'd be more inclined to agree with.
I don't think muscles can recover as quick as we can down protein shakes etc.
I'd do 5 hours of squats and just keep drinking whey if they did.
Although I do feel a bit ridiculous arguing with someone his size lol
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/30 14:01:15 (permalink)

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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/30 14:14:50 (permalink)
I'm not sure if the principle of overtraining encourages training the same muscle group for 5 hours? I thought it was more along the lines of : am workout - squats, pm workout - press, ensuring you eat enough between sessions and rest as much as possible.. It sounds smart to me, probably why many bodybuilders and olympic lifters train twice a day?
 
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Re: Rich Piana, on Supplements Video 2014/11/30 14:27:45 (permalink)
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I'm not sure if the principle of overtraining encourages training the same muscle group for 5 hours? I thought it was more along the lines of : am workout - squats, pm workout - press, ensuring you eat enough between sessions and rest as much as possible.. It sounds smart to me, probably why many bodybuilders and olympic lifters train twice a day?
 
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Oh ok well yeah I do agree am squat pm press for example would be fine.
I was thinking Rich meant you simply just couldn't overtrain a muscle/muscle group.
But rest is still crucial. Training am and pm 7 days a week would catch up on you.
 
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