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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/08 18:57:18 (permalink)
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Indeed original skinhead culture comes from reggae/ska/rocksteady music. It was adopted by the children of black west indians and whites were skins,they never shaved down to the wood it had nothing to do with white supremacy. That was an offshoot. Started in the 60's and revived in the late 70's early 80's. Im a huge reggae afficionado.



 
Well said that man.  I'm huge reggae fiend myself. 

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/08 19:08:17 (permalink)
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And if i cyaan catch qua kue
I will catch him shut (shirt)
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/09 08:58:11 (permalink)
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Good boxset.
 
 
Spot on, I find it quite sad that such an intelligent guy now believes half the rubbish he spouts about drugs.  I suppose given his pre-bodybuilding Skinhead past we shouldn't be to surprised by the Holocaust denial, but there you go.  
 

 
If you think skinhead means nazi then you really haven't a clue.  
 
Yates Holocaust denial is based on his 'research'. He read it from a few sources on the internet, apparently.  He talks a lot of sense about training, but on this..... what a bell end. 
 
He now sports a Bob Marley "One Love, One Heart" tattoo.  

 
 
If you say so.  




 
I do indeed
 





 
Interesting you should post that, a good (recently departed, RIP Dave) friend of mine worked for Trojan, as well as his own label, and was pretty instrumental in bringing a lot of Reggae over from Jamaica with his compilation Albums. 
 
Yes, you describe the orginal Skinheads from the 60's.  Indeed no racism there,  but while second wave Skinheads in the 70's might not have ALL been racist, in face some groups were passionately opposed to racism,  to suggest that there was no correlation between second wave Skinheads and Racism would be absolute horse****.  

No, Not that Dr Z.  Please don't bother PM'ing me for 'Price Lists'  You have the wrong guy.  
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/09 22:41:25 (permalink)
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Good boxset.


Spot on, I find it quite sad that such an intelligent guy now believes half the rubbish he spouts about drugs.  I suppose given his pre-bodybuilding Skinhead past we shouldn't be to surprised by the Holocaust denial, but there you go.  


If you think skinhead means nazi then you really haven't a clue.  

Yates Holocaust denial is based on his 'research'. He read it from a few sources on the internet, apparently.  He talks a lot of sense about training, but on this..... what a bell end. 

He now sports a Bob Marley "One Love, One Heart" tattoo.  

 

If you say so.  





I do indeed






 
Interesting you should post that, a good (recently departed, RIP Dave) friend of mine worked for Trojan, as well as his own label, and was pretty instrumental in bringing a lot of Reggae over from Jamaica with his compilation Albums. 
 
Yes, you describe the orginal Skinheads from the 60's.  Indeed no racism there,  but while second wave Skinheads in the 70's might not have ALL been racist, in face some groups were passionately opposed to racism,  to suggest that there was no correlation between second wave Skinheads and Racism would be absolute horse****.  

I know right, like suggedting dy is a racist because of his choice of fashion as a youth?
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/09 23:48:57 (permalink)
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I put something about 70's/80's skins and then realised this a thread about Ronnie Coleman lol. Understand where its been sidetracked but deleted as probably not the best talking about racists on a Ronnie Coleman thread lol.

Anyway as others have said a combination of factors have caused his physical issues. I've read about his latest ops and what sadens me the most is that his latest op/s have cost him 2 million. In the US healthcare is a disgrace and I'm sure at this rate he obviously won't have his health but he'll also end up a pauper because he'll need a lot more treatment. Very sad indeed.
post edited by Dav - 2018/11/10 00:06:28
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/10 17:37:31 (permalink)
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I don't know if he's paying it out of his pocket or if he has insurance. If he's wise he'd have kept on paying the insurance out of his own pocket even after retiring, plus he has his business so he may have insurance through that.
 
If not yeah they're going to bleed him dry. It's a dog eat dog country if there ever was one.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/10 21:15:19 (permalink)
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Insurance is crap mate in the US (lots of "small print" ). A good friend who is a senior clinician and lawyer specialising in medico-legal cases had to represent his brother who living in the US was almost made bankrupt due to" small print".

Nicks Strength (a pretty reputable youtube site) confirmed Coleman had to fork out 2 million - not good.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/11 10:37:56 (permalink)
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In the UK would he even have got the surgeries? I doubt it

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/11 11:24:33 (permalink)
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And ive met 'bodybuilders' ( for want of a better word) who were knobhead bouncer bullyboy cokeheads, do we tar everyone with the same brush? Its still incorrect? Skins are NOT about racism, bigotry and nazism!
It WAS/IS an offshoot and its still incorrect FACT!
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/11 11:28:39 (permalink)
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^^^^ f**k me I guess I missed something.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/11 12:43:12 (permalink)
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In the UK would he even have got the surgeries? I doubt it

Err NHS does hip replacements all the time. It's a standard procedure in any developed country's national health care system.
 
Just last year the NHS replaced nearly a quarter of a million joints:
https://www.england.nhs.u...y-impressive-outcomes/
 
The idea that the US's health care system is paid for but provides better quality care than other countries' public systems is just one of those lies that they keep repeating so americans keep paying and don't start asking too many pesky questions like "how come we can afford over half a trillion dollars for defense when we're not actually being attacked by anyone but we can't afford health care".
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/11 13:09:03 (permalink)
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The back ops I meant

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/11 15:51:04 (permalink)
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From what I could gather his back injury is much older, he already had back issues back in school and during his Olympia years at some point he slipped a disc squatting and had some pins inserted to keep those vertebrae from moving. Which is also not an uncommon NHS surgery, just not usually as a result of weightlifting but rather things like falls and car crashes.
 
He's had more complications because once you have screws in your back it's not a good idea to be regularly loading them with lots of weight, things always move around a bit and the screws start wearing out the bone which is probably about as painful as it sounds.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/11 16:07:05 (permalink)
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Yeah I think he said himself the discs exploded when he snapped the screws. I imagine that was the final straw basically. Just sound horrifically painful.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/12 12:04:34 (permalink)
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Yeah I think he said himself the discs exploded when he snapped the screws. I imagine that was the final straw basically. Just sound horrifically painful.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/12 12:15:39 (permalink)
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I know how paindul it is to injure yourzelf squatting, i have 2 knackered discs and havent squatted for a few years now. I tried but it was very umcomfortable and the days following legs were really painful, even with pain meds. But when my back first went squatting it wasnt big weights (140 k) but it stopped me in my tracks and i hobbled out the gym. Ronnie said thats it...for squats today, and finished his workout!!! WTAF?
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/12 13:08:44 (permalink)
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I've never had anything as severe as slipped discs, only soft tissue injuries and most times it was stupid injuries due to overuse.
 
Last time I hurt my back I was literally warming up for squats, had something like 90 or 100Kg on the bar, went down a couple times casually and on the second rep on the way up I feel something twitch on my lower back and that was it. It doesn't feel too bad when it happens, the pain comes afterwards when things start to cool down. I was off practically all leg work, rows or any standing lifts altogether for weeks, had to sit down for lateral raises.
 
The squat is a very unforgiving lift. I still do it but I'm a lot more careful with my warm ups, posture and I rarely squat heavy.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/13 09:09:10 (permalink)
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Watched this doc last night. What a nice bloke, shame to see him the way he is now, he could end up od'ing on pain killers the way he's going.

 
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/13 12:39:54 (permalink)
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I've never had anything as severe as slipped discs, only soft tissue injuries and most times it was stupid injuries due to overuse.
 
Last time I hurt my back I was literally warming up for squats, had something like 90 or 100Kg on the bar, went down a couple times casually and on the second rep on the way up I feel something twitch on my lower back and that was it. It doesn't feel too bad when it happens, the pain comes afterwards when things start to cool down. I was off practically all leg work, rows or any standing lifts altogether for weeks, had to sit down for lateral raises.
 
The squat is a very unforgiving lift. I still do it but I'm a lot more careful with my warm ups, posture and I rarely squat heavy.


I prolapsed 2 discs when competing almost 30 years ago along with ligament and muscle tears and nerve damage. 28 later I've started deadlifting again lol. Suffered for many years and attacks/bouts would leave me crawling on the floor. I'd hazard a guess that Coleman possibly trained whilst in this type of state taking painkillers which would have most certainly contributed greatly to his current state.

I also had a twisted pelvis due to my injury and again if this had happened to Coleman and he continued to train very heavy could explain his hip problems.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - The King 2018/11/13 17:31:04 (permalink)
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Just watched the Documentary - enjoyable !
 
I dont feel bad for Ronnie , he seems to be living a pretty great life , yes , his back is in bad shape but he is dealing with it like a champ , why his pal cant keep that gym tidy is a bit of a mystery.
 
His use of those oxycodone is a bit of a worry , but i guess its only really a problem for those who dont has the cash !!
 
Jay Cutler talks kinda funny , whats his deal ?

 
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