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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/01 23:34:39
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I have both types and both are equally fine. Although I prefer the rubber ones because with the other type that I have which includes allen key and spinlock, the latter requires constant tightening as it keeps loosening up.
Which rubber ones. The Jordan rubber cast iron with rubber end? Do you know what is stopping the rubber end one from becoming loose? Would a rubber end cap stop the loosening do you think? The reviews don't mention the need for constant tightening. I know with my Olympic adjustable bells they need tightening, so I can see that these would also, but no one has motioned it on fitness super store Do you actually have them body power pro style dumbbells? or is something very similar, if so what is it? thanks
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 00:01:54
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Does it work like this?
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 00:17:53
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 00:26:57
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It says its a thread but then will it have revolving sleeves?
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 00:33:05
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it needs to do this
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 09:37:45
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surely the handle rotates separately else when picked up it would bind on the handle. suggest an email to ask them. Honestly thinking about making some, very simple to do for me as I have an engineering company and the price of them seems rather steep for what they are.
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 11:07:36
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I've made my mind up I don't want rubber I want cast iron so that one box ticked.
Sean
Great shout, they look perfect its collection though. I wouldn't want the 5kg and 10kg and probably add 45kg though. Another ad on ebay on your linked show rubber dbs but in plates, like iron bells are. That looked better and slimmer, I don't like the big block rubber.
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Its ivanko though, I think their just a bit to much money.
Doc
Yes I need rotation in whatever bells. I disagree with you on a thin handle though. Big hands will bend back. In fact the fat grip rubber things are a good thing for big hands when pressing, wouldn't use they when rowing though.
I think its down to these
Doc and others if you can have a quick look these, what do you think to them?
body power pro style dumbbells
https://search.fitness-superstore.co.uk/search?p=Q&srid=S4-2LON2P&lbc=fitness-superstore&ts=custom&w=Body%20Power%20Pro-style%20Dumbbells&uid=637858407&method=and&isort=score&view=grid&srt=0
Not a bad word said about them
However it says
Pro-Style Dumbbells are supplied un-assembled and require an 8mm Allen key to assemble
Dumbbell weight does NOT include the weight of the handle; Pro Style Dumbbells must be checked & re-tightened where necessary after use
I didn't think they would be the safest, but a reviewer said
They come with a very long thread that you have to use an Allen key to unscrew, therefore they don't become loose
at all whilst lifting.
Other option is this, but some of the bells are out of stock
https://www.jordanfitness.com/collections/dumbbells-use/products/jordan-cast-dumbbells?variant=830948881
Very importantly which ever I choose I need to know the handle thickness and if they rotate.
look good mate , id have them in a flash , really weird your prefer a BBC bar , ive always done my heaviest dumbell presses with a thinner bar , they just seem easier to handle, not super thin, but the thin enough that im not gona loose grip as easily hambo
I have both types and both are equally fine. Although I prefer the rubber ones because with the other type that I have which includes allen key and spinlock, the latter requires constant tightening as it keeps loosening up.
have that problem , araldite is ok , locktight breaks pretty easily but silicone seems to do the job , just needs monthly application . Muscle I think if you consider what rubber dumbells will look like 5 years from now , then cast iron is a better choice . If its just for a home gym id probably go with TP and get the bowlfex adjustable , they look pretty good
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 12:36:54
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Got emails back Jordan fitness and fitness super store
Both are not rotating
fitness super store
Hello Paul
The handles are not rotating, they are a solid lock.
Handle length varies depending on the size of the dumbbell. The more weight the longer the bar.
If you a referring to the grip space then it is 125mm aprox long 25mm thick aprox
Regards
Jonathan
Jordan fitness
Good Morning Paul,
I hope you’re well, we do still have cast dumbbells in stock but I would need your details to put together a quote.
This would just be a name and address if possible?
The Cast dumbbells fit with all of our racks and they do not come with rotating handles.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards
Lewis HollingsDirect Account Manager
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 12:40:25
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With a heavy set yes I would use a normal thickness Olympic db handle, but for joint health you don't want your wrist bending backwards, so thicker grip for moderate reps.
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 12:41:55
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Just about given up with the dumbbells, seems really hard to find what I want. I don't know if the rubber bodymax bells rotate either.
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 12:50:59
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Doc
With a heavy set yes I would use a normal thickness Olympic db handle, but for joint health you don't want your wrist bending backwards, so thicker grip for moderate reps.
id get on gumtree and FB groups to find failing gyms, my mates just missed out an auction , the guy filed to turn u to collect it all, he then got an offer that if he moves it within a week he can take the whole lot for free , dubells, vars, crossover, lat pulldown, leg presses , 3k treadmill all for zilch , lucky bast.
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 15:25:42
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hambo
I have both types and both are equally fine. Although I prefer the rubber ones because with the other type that I have which includes allen key and spinlock, the latter requires constant tightening as it keeps loosening up.
Which rubber ones. The Jordan rubber cast iron with rubber end? Do you know what is stopping the rubber end one from becoming loose? Would a rubber end cap stop the loosening do you think?
The reviews don't mention the need for constant tightening. I know with my Olympic adjustable bells they need tightening, so I can see that these would also, but no one has motioned it on fitness super store
Do you actually have them body power pro style dumbbells? or is something very similar, if so what is it? thanks
I only have the one set in rubber and they are the Hex Rubber end dumbells similar to these ones https://www.powerhouse-fi...dumbbells-2-x-20kg.php I also have types like this one which needs constant tightening https://www.fitness-superstore.co.uk/body-power-pro-style-dumbbells-40kg-x2.html
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 16:07:36
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What weights do you want muscle, as in each pair, and what's your budget?
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 18:16:46
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Why is so hard to find cast iron pro dumbbells with revolving handles? Doc and others, do the gyms you train at all have this magical instrument? There is quite a bit to learn about about dumbbells the more you look The Watson stuff looks very good but its to much money A good quick video here explaining the value of thicker handles and also where the mass of the dumbbell should be. You don't want a wide ass bell. However I feel if the plates are to big it will get in the way with certain lifts like rows. 5kg plates or around 9 inchs is best with a handle of 5inchs. He doesn't explain the revolving handles but we know revolving handles prevent the forces of the dumbbell putting a load on your wrists and elbows. So revolving handles are a must. I might call it a day I perhaps upgrade to this https://watsongym.co.uk/product/heavy-duty-dumbbell-handles/#reviews I will get a shorter handle. I currently have and use the bodypower adjustable handle which is 20 inch wide https://www.fitness-superstore.co.uk/body-power-olympic-dumbbell-handle-x1.html Can anyone work this out though. If the weights are in 5kg plates and total weight of 40kg on a 20 inch wide bell vs 40kg on 14 or 16 inch bell. How much different would it feel? Its only the extra length of the bell, the weight distribution would be the same?
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 18:18:41
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I want cast iron pro dumbbells with revolving handles
15kg 20kg 25kg 30kg 35kg 40kg maybe a 45kg
A rack
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 18:20:09
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I want it new and delivered to my door. I'll cap it at £1500.
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 18:28:49
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Maybe I should several pairs of adjustable db handles and stick them on a rack. Just wouldn't look as good.
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 18:44:14
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I'll post something for you later, what diameter do you want the handles, what diameter for plates, what length handle. What shape do you want to the handle?
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 18:55:46
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Diameter 5 or 5.5 inch for the handle
Diameter 9 or 9.5 inch for plates
Shape of handle I think I will just straight, that is all I have used and known and never had a problem
What are going to do? Thanks for the help
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Re: Rubber dumbbells vs cast iron dumbbells
2018/11/02 18:58:37
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Diameter of handle? Length 5 inches, 1 inch handle is 25mm, can be anything though whatever you want
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