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2014/10/06 15:16:34 (permalink)

SUST CYCLE 250mg Help

Hi guys !! New to this..
I am 19years old. Been training for minimum 3years. Strength has increased very well but not as so much muscle wise..
Anyways i started at 9stones after 3years i weight 12 n half stones.. Height 6ft2. Body fat 14% ..

So i wanna run sust for 8weeks. I bought a bottle of sust 10ml 250mg, hcg 1500iu, armidex(Al), and nolvadex.

Heres an idea of my current cycle.. Need verification though
(1-8weeks)
Monday- 1 ml sust
Thuraday / 1ml sust
Armidex will be used every 3days if any problems occur or once a week if. everything goes well.

The gear was bought from the gym after tons of research. Sust looks very good made by purolabs.

Hcg will be used saturday 500iu from week 5-8.

3weeks off everything after 8thweek

Nolvadex 60mg 1st day
40mg 1week
30mg 1week


The problem is not sure if i should hcg during cycle or with pct. I understand 8week of sust can be short but it should be ok to a minimum.

Thanks guys!!!
Any help appreciated.
post edited by rayzr - 2014/10/06 15:21:38
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 15:30:08 (permalink)
er you have 10ml of sustanon and for that 8 week cycle you'll need 16ml
 
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 15:47:56 (permalink)
Hi, its 300 mg bottle so i will take 0.8. If it runs out i will buy more not a problem. But question is does this cycle sound good? Thanks
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 16:04:48 (permalink)
the cycle sounds fine tbh but your maths is shocking. if you take 0.8ml twice a week it'll still only last for 6 weeks not 8. 
 
i'd start off by getting more of whatever you have but what you have is defo NOT sustanon mate, it's possibly a blended testosterone tho but sustanon 250 contains 250mg per ml, not 300mg/ml. 
 
everything else with the cycle seems fine. i doubt however you'll need the hcg for your first cycle as you should recover well from it anway
 
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 16:30:27 (permalink)
Lol bro !!! It was estimate, but your defo right, regardless it won't be enough.

Its made by puro labs with a blue lid and the sust is yellowish gold it says 300mg pure sust.. Im thinkin if i should go back and get 250mg/ml sust. Only reason i ended up with that 300mg was because only one available.

Isit possible to send pics of it..

Any questions to my pct?? Will i need clomid if i dont take hcg.

Also, Am i better of changing the sust to a test e?
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 16:41:15 (permalink)
19 mate.
I dont want to sound like im preaching and I know guys these days do it but youve got so much test running through your body anyway.
 
 
 
 



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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 16:52:59 (permalink)
True.. Tbh I can lift more than average half the men in the gym all juicing but the truth is i still look small in comparison to a guy who's been on the juice for a cycle, i want to train to be big not feel it. My friend who jus started gym and took a cycle has blown compared to me, so yeah...
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 17:25:36 (permalink)
your friend "who just started gym" take a picture of them now and again in 2 months see if he still looks blown :)
its not easy getting big steroids help yeah but u need good diet, training, rest etc the harder part is keeping those gains like said above your 19 you dont need a cycle yet but you will do it anyway as u have the gear 
whats your diet like?
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 21:39:09 (permalink)
Lol your right. After he finished his cycle he looked worn out in the gym within 20mins and said he felt weaker..
Anyways diets on n off as im currently maintaining but roughly it will look like this

Oats, bannana multi vitamin, glucosamine, omega 3, 3 boiled eggs, p-shake
For breakfast 7am

11am break time college- high protein flapjack, cashews n peanuts, fruits

1:30pm 1 chicken breast wrap filled with rice and salad

4pm- jacket potato/pasta tuna

6pm workout


8pm- mackerel, rice

10pm- low carb p shake den sleep if hungry or haven't reached cals.

Roughly 3,500 cals

Suppls include preworkout, creatine, omega 3, multi vit, etc
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 21:52:02 (permalink)
tbh man sustanon should be almost clear in colour. 
 
no you'll not IMHO need clomid for pct. if this is your first cycle you should bounce back quickly. 
 
gains wise sust and test e will be pretty much the same tbh.
 
btw i'm answering your questions because someone should. but like the guys above at 19 i also feel you should gain well without steroids. however if you ask a question, i'll answer, as you'll only go  do it without advice and that's dangerous. if i wanted to preach i'd become a priest lol
 
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 22:08:29 (permalink)
Bro im here for advice.. Im not stupid to abuse it, just see if its safe to get a boost.. Sorry if i sound stupid in advance, Btw what has least effects sust or test, i know they are similar more or less..

Thanks in advance !!!
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 22:08:31 (permalink)
Bro im here for advice.. Im not stupid to abuse it, just see if its safe to get a boost.. Sorry if i sound stupid in advance, Btw what has least effects sust or test, i know they are similar more or less..

Thanks in advance !!!
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 22:08:34 (permalink)
Bro im here for advice.. Im not stupid to abuse it, just see if its safe to get a boost.. Sorry if i sound stupid in advance, Btw what has least effects sust or test, i know they are similar more or less..

Thanks in advance !!!
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 22:15:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby theweeninjaguy 2014/10/06 22:37:48
test e imo
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 22:21:56 (permalink)
sustanon is brand name mate, its a blended testosterone product made by organon. it contains 4 types of testosterone, differing only in the attached ester which leads to a time release product. each type of testosterone (eg test enan, test prop, test deca, test cyp, test phenylpro) break down into testosterone once the attached ester is removed so they all result in exactly the same hormone. the attached ester however dictates how quickly the test will last in your system before your liver scrubs it out and also how long it will be before it starts working at full strength.
 
so basically test = sust = tri test = test hex = test enan = test cyp at the end of the day. basically use what ever is cheapest. it's a bit more complicated than this but tbh that's a fairly accurate summary without getting a chalk board out and a pointer.
 
the one with least effects would be the one thats the lower dose.
 
test prop is a very short ester letting the test start workign very quickly and consequently getting scrubbed out of existance very quickly. will lead to good quick gains but you really need to inject it every other day as it's in and out much faster than the enanthate ester which wont really give you much gains till about day 18 or so
 
bth sustanon contains:
 
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 22:25:02 (permalink)
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sustanon is brand name mate, its a blended testosterone product made by organon. it contains 4 types of testosterone, differing only in the attached ester which leads to a time release product. each type of testosterone (eg test enan, test prop, test deca, test cyp, test phenylpro) break down into testosterone once the attached ester is removed so they all result in exactly the same hormone. the attached ester however dictates how quickly the test will last in your system before your liver scrubs it out and also how long it will be before it starts working at full strength.
 
so basically test = sust = tri test = test hex = test enan = test cyp at the end of the day. basically use what ever is cheapest. it's a bit more complicated than this but tbh that's a fairly accurate summary without getting a chalk board out and a pointer.
 
the one with least effects would be the one thats the lower dose.
 
test prop is a very short ester letting the test start workign very quickly and consequently getting scrubbed out of existance very quickly. will lead to good quick gains but you really need to inject it every other day as it's in and out much faster than the enanthate ester which wont really give you much gains till about day 18 or so
 
bth sustanon contains: 
ninja
 
 



Thanks for the help ninja !! Appreciate it a lot !!

What was your first cycle..like anyone feel free to answer.. :) B)
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 22:25:03 (permalink)
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sustanon is brand name mate, its a blended testosterone product made by organon. it contains 4 types of testosterone, differing only in the attached ester which leads to a time release product. each type of testosterone (eg test enan, test prop, test deca, test cyp, test phenylpro) break down into testosterone once the attached ester is removed so they all result in exactly the same hormone. the attached ester however dictates how quickly the test will last in your system before your liver scrubs it out and also how long it will be before it starts working at full strength.
 
so basically test = sust = tri test = test hex = test enan = test cyp at the end of the day. basically use what ever is cheapest. it's a bit more complicated than this but tbh that's a fairly accurate summary without getting a chalk board out and a pointer.
 
the one with least effects would be the one thats the lower dose.
 
test prop is a very short ester letting the test start workign very quickly and consequently getting scrubbed out of existance very quickly. will lead to good quick gains but you really need to inject it every other day as it's in and out much faster than the enanthate ester which wont really give you much gains till about day 18 or so
 
bth sustanon contains: 
ninja
 
 



Thanks for the help ninja !! Appreciate it a lot !!

What was your first cycle..like anyone feel free to answer.. :) B)
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 22:25:39 (permalink)
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test e imo


Thanks bro !!
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 22:34:15 (permalink)
my first ever cycle was dbol at 22.5mg per day. one and a half thai anabol 3 times a day! gained 11lb and kept all of it! right up until my next cycle when i crashed as i'd no clue what pct even was. put me right back to square one and shortly afterwards i joined here to learn how to actually do it properly.
 
i generally do 1 cycle per year just before my summer holiday. in total i've gained 6 stone and dropped body fat from very close to 30% to currently about 15% although i tend to be below 10% for holidays. 
 
recently helped someone lose almost 3 stone in 2 months so she could fit into a bloody bridesmaid dress she'd deliberately ordered 2 sizes too fecking small. 
 
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Re: SUST CYCLE 250mg Help 2014/10/06 22:37:35 (permalink)
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test e imo




a short but good answer tbh.
 
sticking to one test type lets you see how you react to that one compound. test prop for example is in and out quickly so any side effects you would get like water retention are magnified as they come on fast and strong which is very very bad if you're prone to gyno. enan gives you time to feel for side effects and counter them before they become an issue. so yeah enan would have less severe side effects than test prop or sust cos you would have time to address them 
 
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