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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/15 21:23:25 (permalink)
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vote trump get Hillary
 

 

 

 
Theres a couple of hundred more , I do wonder if they are just rubbing our noses in it now , like a giant reality TV programme Psyop , certainly does feel a bit Truman show , why isn't the media who love to hate Trump not using this to nail him to the cross as a complete hypocrite and hes obviously been spoken to by the right boss/lobbyst/man dressed as a devil in a satanic gown ?  May was doing it with or without cabinet approval . macron has proof that the chlorine gas was used by the Assad regime when this simply cannot be known , who really is pulling the strings of these Governments seriously? military contractors /military industrial complexes ? Do these secret societies/bankers/Bilderbergers/CFR/Trilateral commission  really construct the narrative ?  They own the media and they make money from selling using weapons so that would explain the motive , profits and explain the news coverage.
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/15 23:00:53 (permalink)
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That's quite shocking really, I wonder what the ultimate goal of the ones really pulling the strings is? It's beyond making money from weapons so I think is total control over everything, energy, world bank, race etc 

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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 10:55:47 (permalink)
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The whole situation stinks.

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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 10:58:50 (permalink)
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RE Trump, hate to say "I told you so".
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
No I don't actually 
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 11:19:58 (permalink)
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I suppose when Trump wrote those he wasn't privy to what the US is gaining out of meddling in Syria. He obviously is now he is President. 
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 11:57:49 (permalink)
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I suppose when Trump wrote those he wasn't privy to what the US is gaining out of meddling in Syria. He obviously is now he is President. 


People voted him in based on that privy or not , they didn't want war otherwise they could have just voted Hilary , just goes to show it doesn't matter who you vote for as you cant elect or dismiss their superiors. Brexit was a big hint that people understand this , but unfortunately whether we are in or out our leaders are answerable to the same people.
 
When Iraq happened I was pretty ignorant to stuff like this until you start doing a bit of reading and see the propoganda , Libya was very obvious , but this Syria and the Skripal story stink to high heaven , its like someone high up has said you'd better be dropping bombs on Syria by then end of the month or your family will be killed , if you cant find a reason just make one up !
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 12:15:22 (permalink)
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Political leaders are not elected, they are selected.
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 12:15:41 (permalink)
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RE Trump, hate to say "I told you so".
 
No I don't actually 




Well it's all very well saying that, but the alternative would more than likely have been significantly worse.
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 12:35:48 (permalink)
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Trump has only dropped bombs on Syria when chemical weapons have been used. These are not the actions of someone who is looking to invade or take Syria over. This is Trump telling Assad "We don't like you or Isis, but given the choice we'd prefer you to stay in power rather than let Isis take over, but just stop using chemical weapons".
 
This is why Trump has never supported a proper invasion of Syria both before and after he became President. This is why Trumps attacks on Syria have been very targeted and short lived. Trump has never funded Isis and he has never sanctioned arming Isis. Trump despises Isis and he wants Assad to stay in power. He and the West just can't be seen to be turning a blind eye to chemical attacks. 
 
The Putin cocksuckers on here will have you believe that these chemical attacks were carried out by the west to justify a Syrian invasion. They will say "but Assad was beating Isis without chemical weapons, why would he do such a thing if he didn't really need to"? They are incapable of understanding the mind of a sociopathic tyrant and they cannot comprehend that sociopathic tyrants will do what sociopathic tyrants do. Just like Aesops fable The Scorpion and The Frog. The scorpion will sometimes act against it's own interests purely because it's in their nature to do so. 
 
The problem from the west's point of view is that in this conflict both sides are scorpions. 
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 12:52:12 (permalink)
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RE Trump, hate to say "I told you so".
 
No I don't actually 




Well it's all very well saying that, but the alternative would more than likely have been significantly worse.


I don't see why since the only real objective argument against Hillary (as in looking at her political agenda rather than disliking her personally) was that she was taking the US to war and Trump was all about pulling out of it. Now Trump is doing exactly what Hillary said she would. Worse, he is actively taunting Russia like he wants to start WWIII.
 
It boils down to Trump being completely full of **** and it was plain to see right under that thin "the people's billionaire" façade.
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 13:10:48 (permalink)
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Trump has only dropped bombs on Syria when chemical weapons have been used. These are not the actions of someone who is looking to invade or take Syria over. This is Trump telling Assad "We don't like you or Isis, but given the choice we'd prefer you to stay in power rather than let Isis take over, but just stop using chemical weapons".
 
This is why Trump has never supported a proper invasion of Syria both before and after he became President. This is why Trumps attacks on Syria have been very targeted and short lived. Trump has never funded Isis and he has never sanctioned arming Isis. Trump despises Isis and he wants Assad to stay in power. He and the West just can't be seen to be turning a blind eye to chemical attacks. 
 
The Putin cocksuckers on here will have you believe that these chemical attacks were carried out by the west to justify a Syrian invasion. They will say "but Assad was beating Isis without chemical weapons, why would he do such a thing if he didn't really need to"? They are incapable of understanding the mind of a sociopathic tyrant and they cannot comprehend that sociopathic tyrants will do what sociopathic tyrants do. Just like Aesops fable The Scorpion and The Frog. The scorpion will sometimes act against it's own interests purely because it's in their nature to do so. 
 
The problem from the west's point of view is that in this conflict both sides are scorpions. 


You are talking as though there 'is' evidence that Assad used chemical weapons , there isn't ! given the wests eagerness to get in to war with/without proof I would say they had more motive than Assad to use them , but with something like this we need to stick with the facts , its got nothing to do with loving hating Trump or Putin , facts and evidence don't have political agenda's , Also the West had already stated they where going to invade Syria so extra motive there, also this isn't Trump saying we don't like you or ISIS , this is Trump funding and backing ISIS to destabilise Syria , have you not studied any of the facts before writing your post ?
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 13:30:15 (permalink)
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Trump has only dropped bombs on Syria when chemical weapons have been used. These are not the actions of someone who is looking to invade or take Syria over. This is Trump telling Assad "We don't like you or Isis, but given the choice we'd prefer you to stay in power rather than let Isis take over, but just stop using chemical weapons".
 
This is why Trump has never supported a proper invasion of Syria both before and after he became President. This is why Trumps attacks on Syria have been very targeted and short lived. Trump has never funded Isis and he has never sanctioned arming Isis. Trump despises Isis and he wants Assad to stay in power. He and the West just can't be seen to be turning a blind eye to chemical attacks. 
 
The Putin cocksuckers on here will have you believe that these chemical attacks were carried out by the west to justify a Syrian invasion. They will say "but Assad was beating Isis without chemical weapons, why would he do such a thing if he didn't really need to"? They are incapable of understanding the mind of a sociopathic tyrant and they cannot comprehend that sociopathic tyrants will do what sociopathic tyrants do. Just like Aesops fable The Scorpion and The Frog. The scorpion will sometimes act against it's own interests purely because it's in their nature to do so. 
 
The problem from the west's point of view is that in this conflict both sides are scorpions. 


You are talking as though there 'is' evidence that Assad used chemical weapons , there isn't ! given the wests eagerness to get in to war with/without proof I would say they had more motive than Assad to use them , but with something like this we need to stick with the facts , its got nothing to do with loving hating Trump or Putin , facts and evidence don't have political agenda's , Also the West had already stated they where going to invade Syria so extra motive there, also this isn't Trump saying we don't like you or ISIS , this is Trump funding and backing ISIS to destabilise Syria , have you not studied any of the facts before writing your post ?




You talk about facts and evidence in this context as though such things actually exist. All that exists is what you're told and the opinions of others with whom you may agree. I have seen zero evidence that Trump 'wants' war with anyone. He has avoided it way more than Hillary would have done so.  Hillary would have been knee deep in Syrian blood by now. Trump has been very restrained for a supposed warmonger. 
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 13:46:23 (permalink)
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Trump has only dropped bombs on Syria when chemical weapons have been used. These are not the actions of someone who is looking to invade or take Syria over. This is Trump telling Assad "We don't like you or Isis, but given the choice we'd prefer you to stay in power rather than let Isis take over, but just stop using chemical weapons".
 
This is why Trump has never supported a proper invasion of Syria both before and after he became President. This is why Trumps attacks on Syria have been very targeted and short lived. Trump has never funded Isis and he has never sanctioned arming Isis. Trump despises Isis and he wants Assad to stay in power. He and the West just can't be seen to be turning a blind eye to chemical attacks. 
 
The Putin cocksuckers on here will have you believe that these chemical attacks were carried out by the west to justify a Syrian invasion. They will say "but Assad was beating Isis without chemical weapons, why would he do such a thing if he didn't really need to"? They are incapable of understanding the mind of a sociopathic tyrant and they cannot comprehend that sociopathic tyrants will do what sociopathic tyrants do. Just like Aesops fable The Scorpion and The Frog. The scorpion will sometimes act against it's own interests purely because it's in their nature to do so. 
 
The problem from the west's point of view is that in this conflict both sides are scorpions. 


You are talking as though there 'is' evidence that Assad used chemical weapons , there isn't ! given the wests eagerness to get in to war with/without proof I would say they had more motive than Assad to use them , but with something like this we need to stick with the facts , its got nothing to do with loving hating Trump or Putin , facts and evidence don't have political agenda's , Also the West had already stated they where going to invade Syria so extra motive there, also this isn't Trump saying we don't like you or ISIS , this is Trump funding and backing ISIS to destabilise Syria , have you not studied any of the facts before writing your post ?




You talk about facts and evidence in this context as though such things actually exist. All that exists is what you're told and the opinions of others with whom you may agree. I have seen zero evidence that Trump 'wants' war with anyone. He has avoided it way more than Hillary would have done so.  Hillary would have been knee deep in Syrian blood by now. Trump has been very restrained for a supposed warmonger. 


candidate Trump was against war see his twitter thats the reason he got elected, president Trump got in at the first opportunity with no evidence , how can you possibly defend him ? The evidence he wants war is  him launching airstrikes in Syria , and yes I am talking about facts and evidence as though they exist , if they don't then don't potentially start WW3 on a hunch , Putin has already said it will defend Syria , shoot down any missiles and the platforms they are being launched from , this could get messy and lots of innocents will die tonight on May/Trump hunch , shame on them !!  Trump/Hillary its all the same because we don't know who sits at the top of the table.
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 13:52:02 (permalink)
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Trump has only dropped bombs on Syria when chemical weapons have been used. These are not the actions of someone who is looking to invade or take Syria over. This is Trump telling Assad "We don't like you or Isis, but given the choice we'd prefer you to stay in power rather than let Isis take over, but just stop using chemical weapons".
 
This is why Trump has never supported a proper invasion of Syria both before and after he became President. This is why Trumps attacks on Syria have been very targeted and short lived. Trump has never funded Isis and he has never sanctioned arming Isis. Trump despises Isis and he wants Assad to stay in power. He and the West just can't be seen to be turning a blind eye to chemical attacks. 
 
The Putin cocksuckers on here will have you believe that these chemical attacks were carried out by the west to justify a Syrian invasion. They will say "but Assad was beating Isis without chemical weapons, why would he do such a thing if he didn't really need to"? They are incapable of understanding the mind of a sociopathic tyrant and they cannot comprehend that sociopathic tyrants will do what sociopathic tyrants do. Just like Aesops fable The Scorpion and The Frog. The scorpion will sometimes act against it's own interests purely because it's in their nature to do so. 
 
The problem from the west's point of view is that in this conflict both sides are scorpions. 


You are talking as though there 'is' evidence that Assad used chemical weapons , there isn't ! given the wests eagerness to get in to war with/without proof I would say they had more motive than Assad to use them , but with something like this we need to stick with the facts , its got nothing to do with loving hating Trump or Putin , facts and evidence don't have political agenda's , Also the West had already stated they where going to invade Syria so extra motive there, also this isn't Trump saying we don't like you or ISIS , this is Trump funding and backing ISIS to destabilise Syria , have you not studied any of the facts before writing your post ?




You talk about facts and evidence in this context as though such things actually exist. All that exists is what you're told and the opinions of others with whom you may agree. I have seen zero evidence that Trump 'wants' war with anyone. He has avoided it way more than Hillary would have done so.  Hillary would have been knee deep in Syrian blood by now. Trump has been very restrained for a supposed warmonger. 


candidate Trump was against war see his twitter thats the reason he got elected, president Trump got in at the first opportunity with no evidence , how can you possibly defend him ? The evidence he wants war is  him launching airstrikes in Syria , and yes I am talking about facts and evidence as though they exist , if they don't then don't potentially start WW3 on a hunch , Putin has already said it will defend Syria , shoot down any missiles and the platforms they are being launched from , this could get messy and lots of innocents will die tonight on May/Trump hunch , shame on them !!  Trump/Hillary its all the same because we don't know who sits at the top of the table.




So you can prove to me that Trump/May/Macron the UN or someone else in the west were behind the chemical attacks in Syria then? 
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 14:17:48 (permalink)
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Most likely the same people who were behind it last year to give the US a reason to bomb. Honestly, whatever you think about Assad, why would he do something to give the Americans a reason not to pull troops out, which they are due to do right now. What possible motive would he have for doing that considering the rebels were beaten and leaving? Who benefits? Who benefited in Libya, or Irag etc etc?
 
You think USA gives 2 monkeys about the Syrian people, what about the people in Yemen?
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 14:31:31 (permalink)
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Trump has only dropped bombs on Syria when chemical weapons have been used. These are not the actions of someone who is looking to invade or take Syria over. This is Trump telling Assad "We don't like you or Isis, but given the choice we'd prefer you to stay in power rather than let Isis take over, but just stop using chemical weapons".
 
This is why Trump has never supported a proper invasion of Syria both before and after he became President. This is why Trumps attacks on Syria have been very targeted and short lived. Trump has never funded Isis and he has never sanctioned arming Isis. Trump despises Isis and he wants Assad to stay in power. He and the West just can't be seen to be turning a blind eye to chemical attacks. 
 
The Putin cocksuckers on here will have you believe that these chemical attacks were carried out by the west to justify a Syrian invasion. They will say "but Assad was beating Isis without chemical weapons, why would he do such a thing if he didn't really need to"? They are incapable of understanding the mind of a sociopathic tyrant and they cannot comprehend that sociopathic tyrants will do what sociopathic tyrants do. Just like Aesops fable The Scorpion and The Frog. The scorpion will sometimes act against it's own interests purely because it's in their nature to do so. 
 
The problem from the west's point of view is that in this conflict both sides are scorpions. 


You are talking as though there 'is' evidence that Assad used chemical weapons , there isn't ! given the wests eagerness to get in to war with/without proof I would say they had more motive than Assad to use them , but with something like this we need to stick with the facts , its got nothing to do with loving hating Trump or Putin , facts and evidence don't have political agenda's , Also the West had already stated they where going to invade Syria so extra motive there, also this isn't Trump saying we don't like you or ISIS , this is Trump funding and backing ISIS to destabilise Syria , have you not studied any of the facts before writing your post ?




You talk about facts and evidence in this context as though such things actually exist. All that exists is what you're told and the opinions of others with whom you may agree. I have seen zero evidence that Trump 'wants' war with anyone. He has avoided it way more than Hillary would have done so.  Hillary would have been knee deep in Syrian blood by now. Trump has been very restrained for a supposed warmonger. 


candidate Trump was against war see his twitter thats the reason he got elected, president Trump got in at the first opportunity with no evidence , how can you possibly defend him ? The evidence he wants war is  him launching airstrikes in Syria , and yes I am talking about facts and evidence as though they exist , if they don't then don't potentially start WW3 on a hunch , Putin has already said it will defend Syria , shoot down any missiles and the platforms they are being launched from , this could get messy and lots of innocents will die tonight on May/Trump hunch , shame on them !!  Trump/Hillary its all the same because we don't know who sits at the top of the table.




So you can prove to me that Trump/May/Macron the UN or someone else in the west were behind the chemical attacks in Syria then? 


No , thats why we have investigations ! its chlorine gas where all sides where in possession of it , I can even make it in my shed . Add in Assad was winning and had no reason to use it , Assad destroyed his chemical weapons under supervision of the UN security council . The west had previously accused Assad of a Sarin gas attack which turned out to be untrue . The West already had a plan in place to destabilise and replace the regime in Syria and has funded ISIS rebels to bring down Assad, the US tax payer has been funding regime change in Syria without even knowing about it, we are over on there land invading and bombing them , not the other way around , would you like a bomb dropped on your house because you where accused of defending yourself in the wrong way when there is no proof of you doing so and you might not have ?  this is warmongering and provocation of the highest order . we shouldn't even be in Syria its absolutely f4ckall to do with us !  
 
Even if he had used chlorine and killed 40-60 people , do you think dropping £1 million per missile and killing more of them is going to help there situation ?  Are we going to leave more bombs and tanks over there to make ISIS bigger/stronger like we did in Iraq or will we have all out war with Russia and China before it gets to that ?
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Trump has only dropped bombs on Syria when chemical weapons have been used. These are not the actions of someone who is looking to invade or take Syria over. This is Trump telling Assad "We don't like you or Isis, but given the choice we'd prefer you to stay in power rather than let Isis take over, but just stop using chemical weapons".
 
This is why Trump has never supported a proper invasion of Syria both before and after he became President. This is why Trumps attacks on Syria have been very targeted and short lived. Trump has never funded Isis and he has never sanctioned arming Isis. Trump despises Isis and he wants Assad to stay in power. He and the West just can't be seen to be turning a blind eye to chemical attacks. 
 
The Putin cocksuckers on here will have you believe that these chemical attacks were carried out by the west to justify a Syrian invasion. They will say "but Assad was beating Isis without chemical weapons, why would he do such a thing if he didn't really need to"? They are incapable of understanding the mind of a sociopathic tyrant and they cannot comprehend that sociopathic tyrants will do what sociopathic tyrants do. Just like Aesops fable The Scorpion and The Frog. The scorpion will sometimes act against it's own interests purely because it's in their nature to do so. 
 
The problem from the west's point of view is that in this conflict both sides are scorpions. 


You are talking as though there 'is' evidence that Assad used chemical weapons , there isn't ! given the wests eagerness to get in to war with/without proof I would say they had more motive than Assad to use them , but with something like this we need to stick with the facts , its got nothing to do with loving hating Trump or Putin , facts and evidence don't have political agenda's , Also the West had already stated they where going to invade Syria so extra motive there, also this isn't Trump saying we don't like you or ISIS , this is Trump funding and backing ISIS to destabilise Syria , have you not studied any of the facts before writing your post ?




You talk about facts and evidence in this context as though such things actually exist. All that exists is what you're told and the opinions of others with whom you may agree. I have seen zero evidence that Trump 'wants' war with anyone. He has avoided it way more than Hillary would have done so.  Hillary would have been knee deep in Syrian blood by now. Trump has been very restrained for a supposed warmonger. 


candidate Trump was against war see his twitter thats the reason he got elected, president Trump got in at the first opportunity with no evidence , how can you possibly defend him ? The evidence he wants war is  him launching airstrikes in Syria , and yes I am talking about facts and evidence as though they exist , if they don't then don't potentially start WW3 on a hunch , Putin has already said it will defend Syria , shoot down any missiles and the platforms they are being launched from , this could get messy and lots of innocents will die tonight on May/Trump hunch , shame on them !!  Trump/Hillary its all the same because we don't know who sits at the top of the table.




So you can prove to me that Trump/May/Macron the UN or someone else in the west were behind the chemical attacks in Syria then? 


No , thats why we have investigations ! its chlorine gas where all sides where in possession of it , I can even make it in my shed . Add in Assad was winning and had no reason to use it , Assad destroyed his chemical weapons under supervision of the UN security council . The west had previously accused Assad of a Sarin gas attack which turned out to be untrue . The West already had a plan in place to destabilise and replace the regime in Syria and has funded ISIS rebels to bring down Assad, the US tax payer has been funding regime change in Syria without even knowing about it, we are over on there land invading and bombing them , not the other way around , would you like a bomb dropped on your house because you where accused of defending yourself in the wrong way when there is no proof of you doing so and you might not have ?  this is warmongering and provocation of the highest order . we shouldn't even be in Syria its absolutely f4ckall to do with us !  
 
Even if he had used chlorine and killed 40-60 people , do you think dropping £1 million per missile and killing more of them is going to help there situation ?  Are we going to leave more bombs and tanks over there to make ISIS bigger/stronger like we did in Iraq or will we have all out war with Russia and China before it gets to that ?




So we don't know who was behind the chemical gas attacks. Yet you appear to be siding with the narrative that it was most probably western powers rather than Putin and Assad just because chlorine was allegedly used which everyone has access to. Yet it is the UN who are claiming it was chlorine gas. Surely if it was the west who carried it out they'd have at least used a gas that had closer links to Syria/Russia/Iran in order to implicate them?
 
I'm not buying it. This is nothing more than a slap on the wrist for Assad. It's telling him that we want you to stay in power but not at any cost. Chemical weapons are out. 
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Most likely the same people who were behind it last year to give the US a reason to bomb. Honestly, whatever you think about Assad, why would he do something to give the Americans a reason not to pull troops out, which they are due to do right now. What possible motive would he have for doing that considering the rebels were beaten and leaving? Who benefits? Who benefited in Libya, or Irag etc etc?
 
You think USA gives 2 monkeys about the Syrian people, what about the people in Yemen?




100% correct not like he will have them fleeing across Europe demanding asylum. Whole situation reeks tbh. 

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Trump has only dropped bombs on Syria when chemical weapons have been used. These are not the actions of someone who is looking to invade or take Syria over. This is Trump telling Assad "We don't like you or Isis, but given the choice we'd prefer you to stay in power rather than let Isis take over, but just stop using chemical weapons".
 
This is why Trump has never supported a proper invasion of Syria both before and after he became President. This is why Trumps attacks on Syria have been very targeted and short lived. Trump has never funded Isis and he has never sanctioned arming Isis. Trump despises Isis and he wants Assad to stay in power. He and the West just can't be seen to be turning a blind eye to chemical attacks. 
 
The Putin cocksuckers on here will have you believe that these chemical attacks were carried out by the west to justify a Syrian invasion. They will say "but Assad was beating Isis without chemical weapons, why would he do such a thing if he didn't really need to"? They are incapable of understanding the mind of a sociopathic tyrant and they cannot comprehend that sociopathic tyrants will do what sociopathic tyrants do. Just like Aesops fable The Scorpion and The Frog. The scorpion will sometimes act against it's own interests purely because it's in their nature to do so. 
 
The problem from the west's point of view is that in this conflict both sides are scorpions. 


You are talking as though there 'is' evidence that Assad used chemical weapons , there isn't ! given the wests eagerness to get in to war with/without proof I would say they had more motive than Assad to use them , but with something like this we need to stick with the facts , its got nothing to do with loving hating Trump or Putin , facts and evidence don't have political agenda's , Also the West had already stated they where going to invade Syria so extra motive there, also this isn't Trump saying we don't like you or ISIS , this is Trump funding and backing ISIS to destabilise Syria , have you not studied any of the facts before writing your post ?




You talk about facts and evidence in this context as though such things actually exist. All that exists is what you're told and the opinions of others with whom you may agree. I have seen zero evidence that Trump 'wants' war with anyone. He has avoided it way more than Hillary would have done so.  Hillary would have been knee deep in Syrian blood by now. Trump has been very restrained for a supposed warmonger. 


candidate Trump was against war see his twitter thats the reason he got elected, president Trump got in at the first opportunity with no evidence , how can you possibly defend him ? The evidence he wants war is  him launching airstrikes in Syria , and yes I am talking about facts and evidence as though they exist , if they don't then don't potentially start WW3 on a hunch , Putin has already said it will defend Syria , shoot down any missiles and the platforms they are being launched from , this could get messy and lots of innocents will die tonight on May/Trump hunch , shame on them !!  Trump/Hillary its all the same because we don't know who sits at the top of the table.




So you can prove to me that Trump/May/Macron the UN or someone else in the west were behind the chemical attacks in Syria then? 


No , thats why we have investigations ! its chlorine gas where all sides where in possession of it , I can even make it in my shed . Add in Assad was winning and had no reason to use it , Assad destroyed his chemical weapons under supervision of the UN security council . The west had previously accused Assad of a Sarin gas attack which turned out to be untrue . The West already had a plan in place to destabilise and replace the regime in Syria and has funded ISIS rebels to bring down Assad, the US tax payer has been funding regime change in Syria without even knowing about it, we are over on there land invading and bombing them , not the other way around , would you like a bomb dropped on your house because you where accused of defending yourself in the wrong way when there is no proof of you doing so and you might not have ?  this is warmongering and provocation of the highest order . we shouldn't even be in Syria its absolutely f4ckall to do with us !  
 
Even if he had used chlorine and killed 40-60 people , do you think dropping £1 million per missile and killing more of them is going to help there situation ?  Are we going to leave more bombs and tanks over there to make ISIS bigger/stronger like we did in Iraq or will we have all out war with Russia and China before it gets to that ?




So we don't know who was behind the chemical gas attacks. Yet you appear to be siding with the narrative that it was most probably western powers rather than Putin and Assad just because chlorine was allegedly used which everyone has access to. Yet it is the UN who are claiming it was chlorine gas. Surely if it was the west who carried it out they'd have at least used a gas that had closer links to Syria/Russia/Iran in order to implicate them?
 
I'm not buying it. This is nothing more than a slap on the wrist for Assad. It's telling him that we want you to stay in power but not at any cost. Chemical weapons are out. 


I am not siding with any narrative , we do not know , investigate and find out first , but you should know after Iraq/afghan and  Libya that the US wants perpetual war  , nobody wants chemical weapons after seeing what the US did in Vietnam yes they are very bad , along with the ones they sold to Iraq etc . But this isnt a slap on the wrist for Assad , he will probably be fine for the next few weeks , its the civilians and genuine freedom fighters who will be killed, its Syria that will suffer and the possible consequences of massive escalations where we all suffer 
 
Do I think the US would stage a false flag just to get in to a war , yes of course (gulf of Tonkin) There economy is built upon bullying/borrowing/spending/wasting , its the only thing that gives the $ any value .
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Re: Sergei Skripal , Russian spy poisoning 2018/04/16 16:29:17 (permalink)
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Another Russian journalist dead after asking too many questions about Russian mercenaries in Syria and what they were doing there. Local Russian officials say there's nothing suspicious about it. Just a coincidence they say.
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43781351
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