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2011/03/23 18:20:19 (permalink)
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Shall i take steroids?

Before we start off yes i know its my body my choice.
Lets begin ok since i was 14 i have been working out, (not correctly) i didn't have much knowledge on the bodybuilding subject.
 
Anyway so when i was 16 years old, i joined a local gym and started working out seriously, Dieted fairly well went to the gym regularly ect, but heres where the problem is, i am not getting any bigger. Well atleast in my eyes i see my self as small, my friends say im pretty big, and a good mate of mine said i have improved dramatically since i joined the gym but i don't really believe them.
 
Anyway lets cut to the chase, after feeling depressed about my body and about ''Not improving'' i am thinking of taking steroids my older brother has told me he can get some for me, the steroids you inject, i have done a little research on steroids watched a couple of documentary's however im still a little nevous and excited at the same time.
 
My goals? I want to be really big.
 
Age? 17.
 
Cheers.
 
 
 
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    ashley1981
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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/23 18:25:14 (permalink)
    your diet must be crap along with your training post it up so people can see
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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/23 18:28:35 (permalink)
    If you are not getting bigger then you are not eating enough. Taking steroids won't change this, at all. You will just be wasting your money and still not getting any bigger. To bulk up you need to eat in a caloric surplus, injecting yourself with AAS doesn't change the laws of physics. You need to eat more. Try that for a few years first. Please don't take steroids, you're too young.

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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/23 18:30:16 (permalink)
    Like you said, it's your decision to make and no-one will say 'yes you should' paticularly at you age and experience TBH.
     
    I would make sure your thoroughly assess the other aspects of your training (post your diet and routine etc up in the appropriate forums on here) and make sure you have all else spot on.
     
    AAS can mask a few sins but if you are off the track as soon as you come off the AAS you will lose it all - to which teh all too common conclusion is to get back on to start getting it back again, and then to stay on using more and more. It's a slippery slope.
     
    You have barely a year of proper training behind you, take your time and be patient. It will come

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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/23 18:40:00 (permalink)
    Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


    1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (growth plates) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (voice box) into the mid-20’s.


    2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.


    3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.


    4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.


    The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.


    For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:

    Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later.


    There are many side effects, some of which are specific to teen users:

    Acne
    Possible increase in Male Pattern Baldness
    Gynecomastia (bitch tits)
    Stunted growth (premature closing of growth plates - not only affects height, but also other long bones such as collar bone)
    Natural testosterone production supression (not ideal at such an important time for your endocrine system)
    Risk of injury (anabolics normally provide an increase in strength. Muscles react more quickly than tendons. This can be an issue even for veteran lifters - potentially much more of a problem for novice trainers who's form is still likely to be poor)
    Possible liver stress with alkylated steroids
    Possible sexual dysfunction
    Testicle shrinkage
    Temporary infertility
    Changes in blood lipids
    Increases in blood pressure
    oedema

     
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    Sawdust
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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/23 18:40:08 (permalink)
    Diet and training come first bud, if you haven't got a decent grasp of those then like DVC said, you'll come off and lose the majority of your gains.

    Throwing money down the drain.

    At 17 you haven't finished growing yet either, i'd be patient and keep at it for a few more years, experiment with diets, routines and see what works for you, if you still fancy it in a few more years then do some proper research into AAS, understand the health risks and the damage you could potentially be doing to yourself before you commit to any decisions.

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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/23 18:42:15 (permalink)
    Seriuously mate at 17 you could do permanent damage to your bodies natural production of hormones, plus all that has been said above is true as well.We all know what its like to want to be realy big and not see what others see in us but you realy dont want to start steroids yet mate,its a long slow proccess to get big and even with gear diet and training and rest are most important,take care bud.
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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/23 18:59:49 (permalink)
    If you had diet and training sorted out, I would say just do a D-bol cycle.
     
    But until you have those sorted, don't bother taking anything.

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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/23 19:13:34 (permalink)
     
     
    Question ......... "shall I take Steroids" ????
     
    Answer........... You are not eating enough and have not been training very long  and you  are       17  .............   so  that's    NO   then.
     
    .........   on  the  other  hand,  ignore  experienced  members,  go  ahead,   stunt  your   growth   and  shut  your    balls  down .........   see  if  anyone  else  cares...........         

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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/23 20:19:56 (permalink)
    JPaycheck

    If you had diet and training sorted out, I would say just do a D-bol cycle.

    But until you have those sorted, don't bother taking anything.

     
    so if he sorts this out and in 12 months time, at 18 years old, you'd say its fine for him to run a dbol course?

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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/23 22:08:45 (permalink)
    I dont buy into the stunting growth etc.
    harm to hormone production yes. It depends on goal's mate if you compete and want to be the best you can possibly be then crack on really. you will allways get thing's trying to put you down but imo that goes with anything.
    BUT BEFORE YOU EVEN CONSIDER USE OF STEROIDS YOU NEED TO SORT YOUR DIET BECAUSE YOU SOUND FAILRY PRIMATIVE IN YOUR KNOWLEDGE. "i started going to a gym and got bigger" thats why people go buddy, but post your stat's up to?
    dont foreget though someone like arnie who started young paid the price in the end having to a heart by pass. dont get me wrong though his pro longed cycles did play there part mainly.Arnie is a legend. so if your not that dedicated get some creatine or something...
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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/24 00:02:59 (permalink)
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    If you had diet and training sorted out, I would say just do a D-bol cycle.

    But until you have those sorted, don't bother taking anything.


    so if he sorts this out and in 12 months time, at 18 years old, you'd say its fine for him to run a dbol course?


    Yes.

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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/24 03:30:08 (permalink)
    17 is to young. If your not growing at 17 then you are doing something wrong, eating, training, or maybe partying to hard. Either way, untill all that is right steroids will do bugger all to help.
    17 IS TOO YOUNG ANYWAY for steroids, and if you had the other aspects right you would be growing anyway.
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    Re:Shall i take steroids? 2011/03/24 06:32:58 (permalink)
    Thats a big NO so mate.
    Post your diet in the diet section and get some help there.
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