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Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders?

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2003/12/16 14:10:31 (permalink)

Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders?

I currently do 5 sets of Military press for my shoulders.
I guess that exercise works the front and medial heads? Do I need to do any other exercise to increase shoulder width or do the Militaries cover that?

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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/16 14:45:10 (permalink)
    Are they getting wider?
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/16 15:06:27 (permalink)
    My shoulders are huge, and I do only Military Presses.
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/16 15:08:08 (permalink)
    they are enough until they stop working then you will need to change something
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/16 15:14:39 (permalink)
    Bluenun:

    Shoulder presses are all you need for big, wide shoulders. Similar to what Shrek recommends, if you are doing barbell shoulder presses, when the gains stop, switch to dumbbell shoulder presses. When the gains stop from dumbbells, switch back to barbell shoulder presses, etc., etc.
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/16 18:09:37 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by rogerthedog

    Are they getting wider?



    Well that's the first thing people notice about me now, they say my shoulders look wider but when I press my hands against the side of my delt I can feel a bone (not sure if it's the top of the Humerus).
    Because I can feel the bone I assume they are not getting wider and maybe I am working the front delts.

    Shrek and Frankie, I was performing standing db press 5 x 5 for the last 12 weeks but have just changed my routine to bb military press so will carry on with them for 12 weeks.

    No need to add a couple of sets of side lateral then?
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/16 18:13:53 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by bluenun

    No need to add a couple of sets of side lateral then?



    In my not so humble opinion, side laterals are useless as a mass building exercise. Use your energy for other exercises or for recovery.
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/16 19:10:59 (permalink)
    Ok thanks Frankie I'll stick with the Military press.
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/16 19:31:04 (permalink)
    Also, where the tendon attaches the muscle to the bone there will not be growth,what muscle is there will not be the full belly of the delt that give you the width either so don't worry about that. Delts are one of my better muscle groups and I can feel bone if I prod around in the right places or for long enough.
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/17 07:46:22 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Frankie NY

    Bluenun:

    Shoulder presses are all you need for big, wide shoulders. Similar to what Shrek recommends, if you are doing barbell shoulder presses, when the gains stop, switch to dumbbell shoulder presses. When the gains stop from dumbbells, switch back to barbell shoulder presses, etc., etc.



    Just wondering Frankie, but would you recomend switching between the two on a weekly basis, or only when you hit a wall?
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/17 09:02:13 (permalink)
    arch i find it better to run a bit of a cycle of an exercise so the feel of it and weight selection is fresh in your mind. say 5-6 weeks of shoulder press with the bar then swap to dumbells
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/17 11:22:38 (permalink)
    I subscribe to 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'. I would only swap exercises if I weren't progressing.
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/17 12:17:11 (permalink)
    Ok well I gave myself a bit of an anatomy lesson today :)

    I feel a bit stupid but the bone I could feel was where the bones meet at the shoulder joint, the Humerus and Clavicle.
    I now realise that the Delts are lower down and they feel more fleshy.

    I find it difficult to know when I am progressing in terms of gaining muscle mass as it is a slow process and I see myself in the mirror at least once a day.
    I am increasing my weights slowly and gaining weight slowly but I can never tell if it is going on all the muscles evenly or not.
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/17 23:32:02 (permalink)
    just chesck yourslef every 8-12 weeks (i.e. weight, measurements and BF%)
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/18 03:59:12 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by ArchAngel

    Just wondering Frankie, but would you recomend switching between the two on a weekly basis, or only when you hit a wall?


    Switch between the two from cycle to cycle - about every 8-12 weeks. Every week or two is too frequently.
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    RE: Shoulder Presses enough for wide shoulders? 2003/12/18 15:54:03 (permalink)
    i agree with if it aint broke dont fix it go with what works for you
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