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2004/03/22 22:54:55 (permalink)
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Simple question bout breathing

When lifting a weight do you breathe in or out?

Bit of a debate with some mates of mine...we're all confused hehe.

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    bigdaddydave
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/22 23:13:01 (permalink)
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    depends on the exercise, on squats i breath out when lifting, but on seated cable rows i breathe in when pulling the weight towards me as it helps to contract the back muscles more. each exercise is different, try not to think aobut it and just do what comes naturally
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/22 23:17:27 (permalink)
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    Breathe in on the way down or just before?
    Breathe out on the way up or just after?

    Various people recommend various combinations of the above.

    Personally, I breathe in before lowering the weight and breathe out partway through lifting the weight back up, just after I've broken through the point at which the lift is hardest.

    I think it's rather a case of seeing what works best for you?
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/22 23:23:36 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Scourge_of_God
    I think it's rather a case of seeing what works best for you?



    Totally agree with that, both my training partner and myself breathe differently on different exercises.

    Alex.
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/23 09:40:13 (permalink)
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    I'm with Scourge of God, breathe out partway through lifting the weight back up! Seems to be the most comfortable and efficient way
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/23 13:36:37 (permalink)
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    I tend to breath out on the up rep and in on the down, except when working the back, then I will reverse it.
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/24 00:33:13 (permalink)
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    do what feels more comfortable
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/25 13:02:20 (permalink)
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    Always breathe OUT on the effort!!!!!!!
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/25 14:15:52 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by ANGEL DELIGHT

    Always breathe OUT on the effort!!!!!!!


    Mmmm... The problem with that is you lose muscular tension when you breathe out, so breathing out to early in the effort can cause you to fail the lift. The problem if you don't breathe out on the heavy lifts (squats) until you've completed the rep you risk passing out partway through it. To get round these problems, I use the modus vivendi I described above i.e. breathe out only after the hardest part of the lift.
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/25 14:31:58 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Scourge_of_God

    Mmmm... The problem with that is you lose muscular tension when you breathe out, so breathing out to early in the effort can cause you to fail the lift.


    Exactly - personally with lifts such as squats and deadlifts I'll take a deep breath before the lift and exhale after the lift is complete. For other exercises which require less or no stabalisation from the mid section I'll just exhale on the eccentric part of the lift.



    quote:
    Originally posted by Scourge_of_God

    The problem if you don't breathe out on the heavy lifts (squats) until you've completed the rep you risk passing out partway through it.

    Yes I get quite dizzy sometimes, but this may be sign that I need to be doing more cardio


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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/25 18:17:01 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Skrewdriver

    quote:
    Originally posted by Scourge_of_God

    Mmmm... The problem with that is you lose muscular tension when you breathe out, so breathing out to early in the effort can cause you to fail the lift.


    Exactly - personally with lifts such as squats and deadlifts I'll take a deep breath before the lift and exhale after the lift is complete. For other exercises which require less or no stabalisation from the mid section I'll just exhale on the eccentric part of the lift.



    quote:
    Originally posted by Scourge_of_God

    The problem if you don't breathe out on the heavy lifts (squats) until you've completed the rep you risk passing out partway through it.

    Yes I get quite dizzy sometimes, but this may be sign that I need to be doing more cardio






    I've heard this kind of breathing can cause injury though.

    Anyway, wouldn't ab development do the same thing and holding your breath is just kind of avoiding that development (like wearing a belt)?
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/25 19:55:30 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by PsYoP78

    I've heard this kind of breathing can cause injury though.

    Anyway, wouldn't ab development do the same thing and holding your breath is just kind of avoiding that development (like wearing a belt)?


    Huh? Howzat work?
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/25 21:38:27 (permalink)
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    It was something I think I read in Arnie's book.

    Also, I found on Austrialia's website ([url][/url]) this info:

    Studies have shown that wearing a back belt has a similar effect on the abdominal (stomach) muscles to holding your breath. This has the effect of increasing pressure on the abdominal muscles and that can cause stiff and exaggerated postures. These postures may increase the potential for injury.


    Here's some other info I got from http://beyond-personal-training.com/weight.htm:

    Exhaling during the exertion phase lowers your internal pressure, while failing to breath correctly can lead to broken blood vessels, as well as a hernia.


    Proper breathing keeps your blood pressure regulated. That's what the deal is.
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/25 22:03:35 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by PsYoP78

    It was something I think I read in Arnie's book.


    Now I'm worried...
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    Studies have shown that wearing a back belt has a similar effect on the abdominal (stomach) muscles to holding your breath. This has the effect of increasing pressure on the abdominal muscles and that can cause stiff and exaggerated postures. These postures may increase the potential for injury.


    I'm almost certain that's ridiculous... This 'stiff and exaggerated' posture I think they're refering to can also be called 'keeping your back straight during the lift' which, by the way, stops you screwing it (the lift and your back) up. So far as I know, most competitive lifters use this kind of breathing and all of them will wear a belt unless they're competing in a RAW federation - Some of these guys are squatting in excess of 500kg, but I've never heard of anyone who's hurt themselves as a result of wearing a belt or breathing incorrectly.
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    Exhaling during the exertion phase lowers your internal pressure, while failing to breath correctly can lead to broken blood vessels, as well as a hernia.


    Hernias occur when your abdominal muscles aren't strong enough to withstand your internal pressure. In this case, the fault is with your muscular strength rather than your method of breathing.
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    Proper breathing keeps your blood pressure regulated. That's what the deal is.


    I'll agree with this. That's the reason for slight dizziness if you don't exhale during big lifts (squat, basically). However, I'm not sure why this is a problem...
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/25 22:27:54 (permalink)
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    Cool...thanks for the insight sog. So do u really get some extra "strength" by holding your breath? Do you hold your breath on all exercises?
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    RE: Simple question bout breathing 2004/03/25 22:53:00 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by PsYoP78

    Cool...thanks for the insight sog. So do u really get some extra "strength" by holding your breath? Do you hold your breath on all exercises?


    Not 'strength', but muscular tension - Your muscles stretch slightly as the weight descends. When you try to reverse the direction the weight is travelling in i.e. press it up, this stretch helps you accelerate the weight off the bottom position, allowing you to lift more weight. If you breathe out too early you lose this extra help in shifting the weight.

    I tend to hold my breath on all exercises apart from the squat and the deadlift - These are the heavy lifts where some people have problems with passing out/dizziness/pretty blue sparks if they don't breathe out. For these lifts I'll exhale slowly during the effort after I've passed the point at which the lift is hardest, after which I know I'll complete the lift, muscular tension or no.

    However, this is just what I and lots of other lifters do - If you find it really difficult or awkward to do this, you might find that you can lift more weight by using another breathing method just because you find it more comfortable.
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