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2007/06/16 12:38:48 (permalink)
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Squat racks/machines

Why can i squat more on a machine than a squat rack?
Any one else have this problem?
When im using my squat rack at home i seem to struggle.Im finding that i cant use the same weight as i do using a machine,i seem to be concentrating on getting the weight off and back on the rack more than the actual exercise,im not pushing out the last rep that i could for fear of not getting that bar back on the rack.Ive had the rack for a several months now and have only made a few poundage gains on the bar.If my body weight increased would this enable me to be able to control the weight on my shoulders more?????ie the actual stepping back and forward.I train alone at home so no spotter.
I train to build muscle but also to lift heavier i set personal goals but these are not being achieved on the squat rack,i cannot afford to go to the gym all the time so training alone at home is my only option...help please.....

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    SJL
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    RE: Squat racks/machines 2007/06/16 13:23:34 (permalink)
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    Because the machine takes out the stabilty part of the excercise, your body doesnt recruit as many muscles to balance yourself as the machine is doing this for you. hence the reason you can lift more
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    RE: Squat racks/machines 2007/06/16 17:40:16 (permalink)
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    So would being heavier make the stability easier?
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    RE: Squat racks/machines 2007/06/16 18:48:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: wolf

    So would being heavier make the stability easier?


    No, because it's relative to the amount of weight that you are lifting, as opposed to how heavy you are.

    I would suggest to ditch using the machines. I know the feeling you are having though...

    I made the mistake of not directly weight training my legs for years and only started regular squatting last year. At first i felt very uncomfortable with the movement but now that i am getting used to it and my form has improved i am much more confident in pushing myself with heavier weights.

    It like anything, it takes time to get used to it.
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    RE: Squat racks/machines 2007/06/16 19:26:11 (permalink)
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    a 20kg is the mass of the weight disc.
    its not a measurement of the resistance your muscles go throw to extend.
    eg opening a door at a handle is easy. opening the door at a hinge is not. but the door weighs the same wherever you try to pull it open.
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    RE: Squat racks/machines 2007/06/16 23:43:09 (permalink)
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    Should i set myself rep targets to aim for as i still feel im not going to max out on my final rep because of the worry of getting the bar back on the racks?
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    RE: Squat racks/machines 2007/06/17 20:52:17 (permalink)
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    aim to be doing more in a month time than you are doing now.
    you do not have to improve every session or try to be doing more than the previous session. just make sure you do over a month
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    RE: Squat racks/machines 2007/06/19 00:03:47 (permalink)
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    cheers for advice.
    did squats today i used 2x5kg plates at each end instead of 1x10kg,to me the bar seemed to be more stable when i stepped back,could the 2x5s be balancing out the rest of the 10kgs?
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    RE: Squat racks/machines 2007/06/19 00:16:51 (permalink)
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    Irrespective of whether you are using 1x10K, 2x5K or 4x2.5K each end, it has no bearing whatsoever on the balance of the bar. It's simply the case that you are getting stronger and more familiar with doing squats and so your balance and strength is improving.

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    RE: Squat racks/machines 2007/06/20 00:41:27 (permalink)
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    ^^^ i totally agree mate, i recently switched from using a smith maching to a squat rack with a barbell, almost fell over mate the first rep, had to drop the weight 10k due to having to balance the bar getting used to it now though and like barbell much better that smith machine, think that my form is much better aswell now, seems to be much smoother, controlled and slower think because im concentrating on the balance much more. Bear with it mate, it will come

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