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2004/01/30 11:18:23 (permalink)
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Standing Military Press

Here loads about this one on the net but nobody uses it at our gym. Tried it out the other day and felt myself leaning back as I brought it down to my chin. Reckon if I upped the weight I would have damaged somethimng. So hows it done properly then and are seated military presses just as good. Also do they hit the medial deltoid hard as thats the bit I want to hit? Any info on where, how its done and how many reps would be great
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    PikeKing
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/30 12:20:55 (permalink)
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    You had trouble leaning back as you have low core strength. Keep doing the exercise standing but dont increase the weight until you have more control. In the meantime use turkish get ups and planks to help your core strength.

    The reason that nobody else does them in your gym i probably because they're embarrassed about how much weight they cant use.
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/30 12:53:20 (permalink)
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    So I can increase my core strength through ab training cant I, but what are turkish get ups and planks?
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/30 13:24:57 (permalink)
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    Satnding military press used to give me doms in my abbs like situps never have for some reason, now I can almost lift as much standing as I could sitting, it's a good workout
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/30 16:34:58 (permalink)
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    Just let the bar down behind your head for a bit of a change. Instead of bringing it down to your chin. Is there anything wrong with using this form? Anyone?
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    PikeKing
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/30 17:00:58 (permalink)
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    Its a risky one, some people do have the mechanics to be able to do it, they are in the minority. I would never recommend doing i behind the head.
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/30 17:53:16 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by PikeKing

    You had trouble leaning back as you have low core strength. Keep doing the exercise standing but dont increase the weight until you have more control. In the meantime use turkish get ups and planks to help your core strength.

    The reason that nobody else does them in your gym i probably because they're embarrassed about how much weight they cant use.


    Listen to what Pike says. He is right on the money.
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/30 18:16:21 (permalink)
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    Its a risky one, some people do have the mechanics to be able to do it, they are in the minority. I would never recommend doing i behind the head.



    i read this one time that it was an unnatural movement to do any kind of press behind your neck. i think it was in FLEX or something like that.
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/30 22:47:45 (permalink)
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    i heard in flex that behind the headm presses generate the same growth as the ones to the front-but i prefer the behind the neck ones, dont know why, i can just feel it more
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/30 23:28:45 (permalink)
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    You can probably feel it more as you are destroying your shoulders and I would also say they wont generate as much growth as you wont be able to use as much weight.

    Don't read flex either, its useless, doesnt even make good toilet paper as its too glossy.
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/31 09:11:36 (permalink)
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    Don't read flex either, its useless, doesnt even make good toilet paper as its too glossy.

    That's GOLD PikeKing!!!
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/31 09:28:34 (permalink)
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    Spot on, standing overhead press is a fantastic exercise, by far the most superior move for your shoulders imo, and it helps you in so many other ways at the same time. I always do my exercises standing up if i can.
    I also believe full range reps are beneficial on the overhead press, down to the chin is a half rep imo, if your can take it all the way down you should.
    I am sure that if your can take your seated partial rep weight and press it standing with full rom you will be stronger, have bigger shoulders and be overall a more balanced and solid trainee.
    People may look at you as if you are weak, they do at me, if i stand and strict press 70 or 80 kg this way, whilst they sit in the smith machine and use 100kg. However when i invite these people to try it my way they are as strong as new born kittens, and have similar development, wheras i can always sit in their machine and by far exceed their weights.

    AL
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    kinkymisspinky
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/31 10:26:56 (permalink)
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    just wondering in regards to full range reps.... i usually bring the bar down to touch the top of my chest, is that right or too low?
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/31 10:34:36 (permalink)
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    Bring it down to your clavicle mate
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/01/31 10:34:54 (permalink)
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    Well as i said, imo the fullest rom is the most beneficial.

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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/02/04 09:55:06 (permalink)
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    'Bring it down to your clavicle mate'

    Cheers mate for the advice. Did exactly that last night and ended up pulling summit in my traps - do you know what your saying?
    So can I take it then that down to chin is far enough. Is'nt it just as good dooing it seated down to chin?
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/02/04 10:03:09 (permalink)
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    Seated, no, you are not involving your trunk

    To the chin, not in my opinion as it is not a full ROM.

    Not sure how you pulled something without looking at you do it but i would say go lighter than you think you should and get a 'feel' for the exercise first
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/02/04 16:41:19 (permalink)
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    There is nothing wrong with the range of motion, you've got just as much change of pulling a muscle doing partial reps.
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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/02/04 21:13:24 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by DerMalePhonkMann

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    Don't read flex either, its useless, doesnt even make good toilet paper as its too glossy.


    That's GOLD PikeKing!!!

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    RE: Standing Military Press 2004/02/04 21:17:32 (permalink)
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    Personally i would say you have got more chance of pulling something using partials, the weight is typically too heavy for the whole muscle to contend with (hence the partial ROM).

    With a full range you incorporate the entire muscle
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