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2006/07/17 21:53:27 (permalink)
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Standing bar press or seated

Which do you think is best for adding the most muscle on shoulders

I was thinking seated bar press because I can move the most weight, but standing seems more compound.

Thanks
post edited by Muscle - 2006/07/17 21:54:03

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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:01:28 (permalink)
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    Id say standing.

    It uses far more core muscles as you are stood up.

    Also you can cheat the bar up for the last couple of reps so lets you train that bit harder.
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:04:59 (permalink)
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    Its true you can cheat the bar up for the last couple of reps but I can still move more seated because I can push back on the bench.

    That been said I will try standing again beacuse it uses more muscles.

    Can you move more standing or seated?

    Thanks bud.

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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:10:31 (permalink)
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    You can move more standing id say. Get a little leg action in towards the end. Its not so that this becomes your teqnique, just helps move past sticking points.....kind of like what a spotter would do.

    I do mine in a power cage with the pins set to the lowest position for the lift.

    If you can lift more seated than standing, then your back muscles and abs are a little weak. Just lift what you can but keep increasing the load. The back and abs muscles should adapt quite quickly. So you get to hit them without actually doing anything extra!! BONUS!!!
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:19:23 (permalink)
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    I'd say you can lift more seated because: you are stabilised more and generally people are less upright, they slide forward and arch bringing other muscles in to help (like a very steep incline press)
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:19:32 (permalink)
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    Yeah I think your right about my back and abs been weak. My back is definately a weak point. From a side shot my back looks flat, so maybe standing will help with my back.

    And maybe a little more leg action is in order as well like you say.

    In fact I can definately see standing one's adding more meat all over the body, thinking about it.

    Thanks mate, can't wait to try them again.

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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:22:24 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: dirtyvest

    I'd say you can lift more seated because: you are stabilised more and generally people are less upright, they slide forward and arch bringing other muscles in to help (like a very steep incline press)




    I still feel like trying standing again seems like it might build more muscle all over.
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:22:38 (permalink)
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    Good stuff

    Just dont bring the leg action in till the end, Its ok to cheat up the last couple of reps, but if your doing it from the start, you'd be better off dropping the weight.

    If you feel that your back needs some work, make sure that deadlifts are in your workout... one of the best excercises possible.
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:24:58 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Muscle

    ORIGINAL: dirtyvest

    I'd say you can lift more seated because: you are stabilised more and generally people are less upright, they slide forward and arch bringing other muscles in to help (like a very steep incline press)




    I still feel like trying standing again seems like it might build more muscle all over.


    Don't get me wrong, standing is superior IMO, I was just explaining why more is lifted seated.
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:28:03 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: bdadavies

    Good stuff

    Just dont bring the leg action in till the end, Its ok to cheat up the last couple of reps, but if your doing it from the start, you'd be better off dropping the weight.

    If you feel that your back needs some work, make sure that deadlifts are in your workout... one of the best excercises possible.



    Ok mate thanks for the help

    As for my back I do deads, rows, pull ups, I guess it's the way I am.

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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:29:54 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: dirtyvest


    ORIGINAL: Muscle

    ORIGINAL: dirtyvest

    I'd say you can lift more seated because: you are stabilised more and generally people are less upright, they slide forward and arch bringing other muscles in to help (like a very steep incline press)




    I still feel like trying standing again seems like it might build more muscle all over.


    Don't get me wrong, standing is superior IMO, I was just explaining why more is lifted seated.



    Ok mate thanks for the help

    Can't wait to to standing press outside in sun on weds

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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 22:33:30 (permalink)
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    As for my back I do deads, rows, pull ups, I guess it's the way I am.


    Certainly sounds like you are doing the right lind of excercises, just make sure that you are making progress in them and not just lifting the same weight for weeks on end.

    If you are making progress then stick to what you are doing.

    If not try diferent rep ranges i.e. 2-4... 4-6.... 8-12.... 20.

    Also try diferent rest periods... if you train the back twice a week and get no progress, train it only once, but make sure you really train it hard when you do.

    But sounds like you know what you are doing.

    Take care
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/17 23:04:04 (permalink)
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    I can do more standing ... but find seated far more comfortable and find it hits shoulders more as it's stricter

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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/18 00:06:52 (permalink)
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    I always finish with a few sets of standing as in agreement with previous posts you can use your body to "cheat " for the last couple of reps to really finish the shoulders off!!
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/18 11:44:18 (permalink)
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    Yeh, sat down with back support is what i find best too.

    Gives the back some support so you can totally focus on working the shoulders.
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/18 14:08:14 (permalink)
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    standing presses will work more muscles but the question was Which do you think is best for adding the most muscle on shoulders witch in my opinion is seated presses
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/18 18:13:23 (permalink)
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    standing mate
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    RE: Standing bar press or seated 2006/07/18 18:29:02 (permalink)
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    At the end of the day then it looks like some can shift more seated and some can shift more standing.

    I think the exercise which someone can shift the most weight with, will grow the biggest shoulders.

    I'm still going to do standing tho because I think it will help with my core strengh.

    Thanks.


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