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2006/07/14 13:59:22 (permalink)
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Staying lean 24/7 365

My training partner has been training for approx 8 yrs now (drug free) and about 18 months ago he dropped his bodyfat somewhere around 8%. He trains as hard as I do (im currently bulking) and does cardio a few times a week also!

What are the disadvantages of staying like this...if any?

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Squat - 160kg
Dead - 200kg
Leg press - 310kg
Age - 26
Weight - 75kg
Height - 5ft 9
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    blackj
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    RE: Staying lean 24/7 365 2006/07/14 15:04:03 (permalink)
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    I would think there probably isn't to many disadvantages provided your look after yourself. If he was to get sick or have an accident then there is a smaller amount to drop before it becomes problematic.
    Plus that and he feel the cold more in the winter.!!
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    RE: Staying lean 24/7 365 2006/07/14 15:08:00 (permalink)
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    How will this affect gains though? He still thinks e going to grow to 15 stone (he's currently 13 St 8)

    This will take forever this way wont it? He has no intension on bulking or loosing his 6-pack in any way!

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    Dead - 200kg
    Leg press - 310kg
    Age - 26
    Weight - 75kg
    Height - 5ft 9
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    RE: Staying lean 24/7 365 2006/07/14 15:44:45 (permalink)
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    It depends how well he knows his diet, his training, etc... and how much of each factor affects him.

    If all of that is in order and he knows how certain macronutrients affect him with certain training, then he may be able to stay lean whilst adding lean muscle.

    However, for some, this is harder and when bulking, you will put fat on as well as muscle.
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    RE: Staying lean 24/7 365 2006/07/14 16:20:39 (permalink)
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    i know some guys who swear by satying lean all year round saying they can see the improvements much better as they were happening than when they were carrying round the fat then dieting which gave em more motivation. But................ the guys i know who do this aren't exactly mass monsters so i don't know. personally i find it easier to train hard eat lots and just do cardio 3x a week for 20 mins half hour so i stay leanish
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    RE: Staying lean 24/7 365 2006/07/16 22:33:47 (permalink)
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    dont worry about staying lean if you want to be big.

    i made that mistake for years which is why after 12 years im only 200lbs.

    A friend of mine bulked till - and he was fat man! when he dieted he looked awesome!

    A friend of mine said to me once: if you can put the weight on (fat) you can take the weight off

    Just make sure you have a plan.. let the results do the talking, dont worry about your mate looking good in the nightclub, he'll probably still be looking the same in a few years time whereas you (if you stick to your plan) will make him look like a weed - which my mate does, compared to me! LOL

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    RE: Staying lean 24/7 365 2006/07/17 09:15:11 (permalink)
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    I forgot to mention that he trains 12 times a week! I can't say how many sessions are on the weights as i only train with him 5 times a week. I think he does 4 - 5 cardio sessions in the week. How is this giong to affect his gains?

    Bench - 130kg
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    Dead - 200kg
    Leg press - 310kg
    Age - 26
    Weight - 75kg
    Height - 5ft 9
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    RE: Staying lean 24/7 365 2006/07/17 10:22:45 (permalink)
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    12x a week could be fine depending on intensity

    Full intensity full body 5x a week would be too much

    5x a week split routine, with cardio every day (7x) may not be ...

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    RE: Staying lean 24/7 365 2006/07/17 21:27:35 (permalink)
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    I think all this bulking/cutting crap is a bit boll*cks to be perfectly honest. Sure, you'll probably make gains quicker but that isn't necessarily what everyone wants. If you trained well and ate (very!) well over, say, 10 years, you could build a very impressive physique without increasing your bodyfat % by a great deal. Takes patience and perseverance certainly, but it can work.

    And then there are those people who never really put much bodyfat on anyway.
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    RE: Staying lean 24/7 365 2006/07/17 21:47:11 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: tokar

    I think all this bulking/cutting crap is a bit boll*cks to be perfectly honest. Sure, you'll probably make gains quicker but that isn't necessarily what everyone wants. If you trained well and ate (very!) well over, say, 10 years, you could build a very impressive physique without increasing your bodyfat % by a great deal. Takes patience and perseverance certainly, but it can work.

    And then there are those people who never really put much bodyfat on anyway.

    of course it can work, problem is people fall into the trap of trying to sustain a lean physique and that involves cutting calories. If you eat properly al the time i imagine you can sustain an even look and that in itself is difficult as your body fat slowly creeps up on you, then before you know it, your dieting!

    Pain is just weakness leaving the body..
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    RE: Staying lean 24/7 365 2006/07/17 21:59:41 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: e8_pack


    ORIGINAL: tokar

    I think all this bulking/cutting crap is a bit boll*cks to be perfectly honest. Sure, you'll probably make gains quicker but that isn't necessarily what everyone wants. If you trained well and ate (very!) well over, say, 10 years, you could build a very impressive physique without increasing your bodyfat % by a great deal. Takes patience and perseverance certainly, but it can work.

    And then there are those people who never really put much bodyfat on anyway.

    of course it can work, problem is people fall into the trap of trying to sustain a lean physique and that involves cutting calories. If you eat properly al the time i imagine you can sustain an even look and that in itself is difficult as your body fat slowly creeps up on you, then before you know it, your dieting!



    Well sure, I guess the question is "how lean is lean"? You're never going to sustain like 6% all year round unless you're a Tour cyclist or something. Also, though, a bit of dieting doesn't have to be as drastic as what most people think of as an out and out "cut".
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