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2006/07/11 12:52:14 (permalink)

Still gaining strength on cut

sorry if this is deemed to be posted in wrong area

Been cutting since start of april, so... what, 12-13 weeks, started 212 lbs, currently 198lbs give or take a bit, with still a bit to lose. Been using CEE for a month 3-5g, and also started started using some Maximuscle Thermobol x3 per day to help things along a bit. Started feeling a bit dizzy at times dont know if thats the fat burner or the lower carbs.

Thing is my lifts are STILL improving, i'm managing to get a extra rep out on a particular exercise after few weeks of trying and deadlift is slowly increasing as well as squat (less so though).

I'm doing 5 or more lots of 40min cardio per week (did more last week) 65% MHR, and still the weights/lifts increasing.

Can this keep happening? or will i soon reach a platuea? I didnt think i would be able to keep increasing strength like this. I'm pretty sure this didnt happen last year when i was cutting for my hols. (wasn't on creatine of any sort then though)

Any idead why guys?

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Rodge

EDIT - spellings corrected
post edited by BencherRdg - 2006/07/11 12:57:10

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    DEAD_WEIGHT
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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/11 13:08:50 (permalink)
    Are you using any gear

    If so maybe that is helping with strength

    If not then i dont have a clue
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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/11 13:18:29 (permalink)
    sorry mate I should have mentioned that i'm not on any gear. ooops I never thought to mention it as never even came into my mind to!. My protein is quite high as i'm wanting to preserve as much muscle as possible, but i'm guessing i must have lost SOME muscle as my weight loss definately is all fat! Arms have gone smaller but my back doesnt seem to have done

    I just cant understand it

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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/11 13:22:52 (permalink)
    I got told when you are cutting you should do short cardio sessions 10 - 15 mins max but in that time you have to go all out.

    One bloke in our gym goes to a field, puts 2 markers on the floor with a decent gap between them, he will then sprint as fast as he can to the other marker then walk back to the start and then sprint back etc etc etc he would do this for 10 mins 3 times a week and that was his cardio. He was cut to f*ck when i last saw him and he doesnt seem to have lost any muscle.

    Maybe try this and you wont lose as much muscle.

    Oh and its good to hear you are not on gear. Natural all the way
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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/11 13:23:26 (permalink)
    Sorry to jump in on your post but I am going to start a winny/eca cut in the coming weeks.

    Am I likely to get strength gains from it? Would be nice as my lifts are higher than ever before!

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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/11 13:31:07 (permalink)
    How good / bad was your diet before the cut ?

    If it was poor - then perhaps you weren't getting enough quality nutrients for optimal strength before , and now you are (even though you are on a cut !)
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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/11 13:32:25 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: DEAD_WEIGHT

    I got told when you are cutting you should do short cardio sessions 10 - 15 mins max but in that time you have to go all out.

    One bloke in our gym goes to a field, puts 2 markers on the floor with a decent gap between them, he will then sprint as fast as he can to the other marker then walk back to the start and then sprint back etc etc etc he would do this for 10 mins 3 times a week and that was his cardio. He was cut to f*ck when i last saw him and he doesnt seem to have lost any muscle.

    Maybe try this and you wont lose as much muscle.

    Oh and its good to hear you are not on gear. Natural all the way


    hmmm well maybe it worked for him but may not work for everybody - i dunno Thing is i'm doing most of my cardio first thing in the morning and i beleiv doing any high intesity stuff will rusk the risk of you being more catablic. There's a post Called fueling your cardio, that Toxic Toffee wrote. Its very good

    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/Fuelling_your_Cardio/m_941543/tm.htm


    Sorry to jump in on your post but I am going to start a winny/eca cut in the coming weeks.

    Am I likely to get strength gains from it? Would be nice as my lifts are higher than ever before!


    wouldnt have a clue personally mate, i have f'all knowledge on winny, although i was toying with the idea of using ECA but, back out and thought i'd try using the MM THermobol although its never going to give me the same results, i do realise.

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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/11 13:35:08 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Dr Zoidberg

    How good / bad was your diet before the cut ?

    If it was poor - then perhaps you weren't getting enough quality nutrients for optimal strength before , and now you are (even though you are on a cut !)


    it wasnt much different to how it is know, pretty good really, although i've upped fats, reduced carbs, and talking of carbs i've swapped white spuds for sweet ones. I must stress i'm feeling a bit tired now and again and feel the need to be in bed for 11pm!

    Maybe the strength will stop shortly i keep adding weight to my deadlift and obv its getting a bit harder but i'm still making the lifts with good form

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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/11 13:38:07 (permalink)
    OK nice one i will have a look at that post thanks alot
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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/11 13:39:16 (permalink)
    Im steadily loosing weight and also lifting more each week, so your not alone. Its great, but liek all good things I think that it wont last for much longer.

    Thankyouplease
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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/13 14:43:59 (permalink)
    ah well strength stalled on DB ohp's now at least it did tuesday night- i suppose it was going to happen eventually.... Still manage to rep 6 on squats last night with 2.5kg more than last week though.

    Still 'appy

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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/13 15:16:16 (permalink)
    I'd be interested to know if you are losing weight week on week and at what rate, I'm currently looking to lose at least 2lb per week, having lost double that this week. I know my strength is peaking out now, mind you I've lost 5 stone since the beginning of Decemeber, and maybe have a couple more to lose, having started at the gym late Feb. I can't seem to get my squat above 360lb at the moment, but am making a little gain on the deadlift hitting nearly 400lb, but I guess that is maxed out also. My bench isn't increasing so I have added an extra set to try and squeeze some more out.

    Same as yourself with the high protein and low carb, just making sure, with the help of James, that my workout is correctly fueled, I may even be tempted to put some before and now pics in my sig, if I can get the missus to fire the camera in my direction.

    Good luck with the strength gain and weight loss
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    RE: Still gaining strength on cut 2006/07/13 16:32:16 (permalink)
    LOL, dont worry about it mate, if your getting stronger and loosing fat still thats wicked !!

    May have to do with the carbs your now having, maybe slower burning giveing you more energy ??
    as the doc says.
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