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Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it?

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2007/06/07 09:28:19 (permalink)

Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it?

It seems like strongman comps dont really cater for warming up.

In training if i go for a max log, i treat it like a gym lift and add 10kg at the time or something like that. With farmers I have maybe three warm ups before hitting the target weight. Same with yoke etc.

But at the strongman comps you just seem to hit the comp weights with very minimal warm ups. Last comp I just played with one 25kg plate, did some band pull aparts and shoulder stuff, rubbed in some muscle heat and then it was straight to 120kg farmers.

Is this common?

Do you guys recommend sometimes training like that as well? As in cut out all but smallest amount of warm ups and hit the working weights straight up?

Is it true that there is often no chance to warm up even for a heavy yoke?
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    Ken Nowicki
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 09:55:08 (permalink)
    Joni I know that when Al was at the British he had a 60kg barrell to warm up with for a 400kh yoke

    For comps they might let you pick up the farmers or have a smaller log to play about with. I think that you need to become creative in ways to warm up pre-comp. I remember last year at Fraserburgh they had an 30kg 8" log so all I did for a warm up was a few log presses, picked up farmers a couple of times, some stretching and then a few sprits.

    When I train I would do, eg. farmers- 90*30m, 120*30, 120*30, 120*max. log would be- 90*5 and then up the weight to comp weight or work up in singles if its a 1RM.

    Hope comp this week goes well,

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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 10:30:08 (permalink)
    Really good point this Vegan!
    The Midlands qualifiers that I watched,2 people tore their bicep picking up the log!!!!
    I will be brining a weight to chuck around and warm up now!

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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 13:27:33 (permalink)
    Very rarly theres anything to warmup on!
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 14:26:31 (permalink)
    i think my warm up strategy will be some light movement and jogging, then band work, and a liberal layer of muscle heat!
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 14:55:36 (permalink)
    On Sunday there will be aleast one oly bar and some plates so people can have a warm up deadlift or overhead press etc.

    Let me know what you would like there and if i have it i will do my best to bring it.
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 15:13:44 (permalink)
    nah, its ok mate. Straight to the deep end, its a novice comp and we need to learn how its done properly, lol!
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 16:11:19 (permalink)
    A oly bar , 400kg in weights and a deck chair will do Mike - that way I can sit on my arse and watch you take forever to unload the weights out of the van
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 16:25:48 (permalink)
    It's a good idea to warm up with jogging and stretching but dont bother with implements. Everything feels much heavier if you try it before the comp. You wont learn anything and by the time it's comp time you'll be charged and jus hit them hard. The only exemption is something like a timber walk where it's handy to find a blance point but again nothing heavy or it will play mind games and you'll be fuked before you start.
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 17:44:58 (permalink)
    ok, solid advice and opinion coming in, good stuff!

    Deepsquatter, good point about things feeling heavier if you just try it out half heartedly. Also, weights in training feel strangely heavier than at comps...

    but what about the question of training for the "no warm ups"? Would you recommend sometimes having event sessions where you just do minimal warm ups and then just go for all working weights?
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 19:42:21 (permalink)
    Mike - i don't know for certain if i can get down, but will let you know as soon as i know whats happening.

    Any chance if Ste would bring his Millennium down, i really love to have an attempt to press it. hit 90kg on a 3" a few weeks back.

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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 19:43:38 (permalink)
    All good stuff to hear!
    Makes sense not to touch the event equipment,
    But I dont want to be taring any muscles, as I will be exploding on every event!
    So a little warm up I feel will be good!

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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 22:07:11 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL:

    but what about the question of training for the "no warm ups"? Would you recommend sometimes having event sessions where you just do minimal warm ups and then just go for all working weights?



    I wouldnt recomend it - its not worth the risk!

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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 22:58:28 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Welshdragon

    Very rarly theres anything to warmup on!

    Yeah remember that 380kg frame carry at UK's 2005 at 8:30 in the morning with no warm-up!!! That was fun!!!

    In all seriousness I would invest in some bands to use for warm-ups, believe it or not the bigger comps are worse for having no warm-up equipment. at Mohegan sun earlier in the year it was a 400kg yoke for 30m totally cold.
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 23:07:23 (permalink)
    aye, i got myself a set of bands from london kettlebells.

    And a tub of muscle heat

    ... but by the looks of it, its going to be 26-28 degrees at Severn Valley, not the highest risk of getting cold!
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/07 23:10:04 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: veganlifter

    but what about the question of training for the "no warm ups"? Would you recommend sometimes having event sessions where you just do minimal warm ups and then just go for all working weights?



    As WD says *don't* try and hit comp. weights straight away in training.

    There is an inherent risk when you compete because you produce a 'kill or be killed' mentality which is very hard to replicate in training. Injuries may occur because you take yourself to place 'mentally' you dont normally go.

    The secret (if there is one) is to get to a point where the comp. weights feel easy in training. Say you have 100kg farmers in the comp. regularly train with 110kg+ farmers. It doesn't mean you should jump straight in on training days with 110 or even 100kg it just means your body is far more likely to handle the lighter weight come comp. time.

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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/08 00:02:46 (permalink)
    If i have room on the van i will bring the Millennium along for you to play with.

    As for numbers not sure i hope there will be around 15 novice. I have only had 9 forms back.
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/08 00:13:46 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: evertonfc

    Mike - i don't know for certain if i can get down, but will let you know as soon as i know whats happening.

    Any chance if Ste would bring his Millennium down, i really love to have an attempt to press it. hit 90kg on a 3" a few weeks back.




    You know it's 103-kilos right??

     
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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/08 00:35:51 (permalink)
    Looks like I will be buying some bands then!
    Cant wait now!

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    RE: Strongman comps: no warm ups, train for it? 2007/06/08 01:35:33 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Mobster


    ORIGINAL: evertonfc

    Mike - i don't know for certain if i can get down, but will let you know as soon as i know whats happening.

    Any chance if Ste would bring his Millennium down, i really love to have an attempt to press it. hit 90kg on a 3" a few weeks back.




    You know it's 103-kilos right??



    I’ll realize when it doesn't budge off my shoulder. LOL
    I was using a dumbbell with plates which made it hard to keep on my shoulder, so hoping that the ends of the Millennium should balance better?

    If you can bring it, any attempts to deadlift it Ste ?
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