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2011/04/01 10:53:38 (permalink)
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Suggestions please!!!

I am at a bit of a crossroads at the moment and could do with some input from you guys. I am contemplating a cycle of prohormones but want to know what you recommend?
I am 38 (no spring chicken!) and have been training on and off for about 10 years. I have bulked, lost weight, got to a size i am happy with then lost it etc etc for a while until now, when after bulking up to about 16.5 stone with a little bit too much body fat, decided to cut to a leaner postiton before attempting a lean and SLOW bulk!
 
I am now about 15 and a bit stone and feel skinny but still hold a bit too much body fat around my belly area so i am in a dilemma as to whether to continue cutting or lean bulk now while trying to lose bodyfat too?
 
I am wondering if you could suggest a DS that may help in this goal?
 
I have done a few cycles in the past. A Transdermal PH years ago, cant remember which! Also done a couple of EPI cycles, one which went quite well the 2nd didnt seem very good at the time, also started a M1T cycle back in the day but knocked it on the head due to crappy sides!
 
 

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 11:05:16 (permalink)
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    From what you wrote, it sounds like you'd most like to aim for a recomp? ie some fat loss, some muscle gain?
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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 11:42:32 (permalink)
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    Yeah i think thats what i want..any suggestions?

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 13:08:23 (permalink)
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    I think Hdrol would be ideal for this, BUT you gotta remember that your diet and training will really dictate the results though.
     
    Here's a suggestion:
     
    preload hawthorn berry and milkthisle at 1g/day each for 2 weeks
     
    on cycle: hdrol: 50,50,75,75,75,75
    and a protective product eg, Cycle assist, cycle support, or N2Guard.
     
    PCT: SERM, i use tamoxifen
    test booster eg bioforge, or testforce, or HCGenerate
    creatine
     
    hope this helps
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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 15:44:44 (permalink)
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    Good suggestions by m118.

    H-Drol would be a good choice for a recomp.

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 20:23:23 (permalink)
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    You reckon HDrol is better than Epi for this goal ? Are all the cycle assists/test boosters necessary?

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 20:24:53 (permalink)
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    Would it be worth cutting the cycle a few days short to only have to buy one tub of Dragon 100 caps?!

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 20:32:45 (permalink)
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    You reckon HDrol is better than Epi for this goal ? Are all the cycle assists/test boosters necessary?


    I would always take HDrol over Epi for a recomp. (just my two cents)

    Cycle assists are always necessary!
    Test booster are a good addition to your pct to help you with recovery after your cycle.

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 20:35:14 (permalink)
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    Would it be worth cutting the cycle a few days short to only have to buy one tub of Dragon 100 caps?!


    A short cycle would be ok.

    Do they have independent lab tests on their HDrol?

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 20:36:00 (permalink)
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    You reckon HDrol is better than Epi for this goal ? Are all the cycle assists/test boosters necessary?


    I would always take HDrol over Epi for a recomp. (just my two cents)

    Cycle assists are always necessary!
    Test booster are a good addition to your pct to help you with recovery after your cycle.

     
    I agree. If you google Hdrol results, you'll see its well used for recomping, whereas epi is more suiting to either bulking or cutting.
     
    Re: cycle protection, I figure in the grand scheme of things, its not much money to spend to help protect my liver, bp --> kidneys, prostate, and cholesterol.
     
    And I've always added a testbooster with my SERM PCTs.
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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 21:05:52 (permalink)
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    A short cycle would be ok.

    Do they have independent lab tests on their HDrol?

     
    I dont think so, they are a new company but i believe others have used their products successfully.
    THe cycle wouldnt be too much shorter just 100 caps worth rather than 112 on m118s suggested cycle


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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 21:22:31 (permalink)
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    A short cycle would be ok.

    Do they have independent lab tests on their HDrol?


    I dont think so, they are a new company but i believe others have used their products successfully.
    THe cycle wouldnt be too much shorter just 100 caps worth rather than 112 on m118s suggested cycle


    Hmmm... I don't trust all these new companys without independent lab test especially when it comes to DS/PHs!

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 21:30:31 (permalink)
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    I will ask the question to them in the other thread!

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 22:00:26 (permalink)
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    A short cycle would be ok.

    Do they have independent lab tests on their HDrol?


    I dont think so, they are a new company but i believe others have used their products successfully.
    THe cycle wouldnt be too much shorter just 100 caps worth rather than 112 on m118s suggested cycle


    Hmmm... I don't trust all these new companys without independent lab test especially when it comes to DS/PHs!

     
    then pm me your address i will send you some free to use you will soon change your mind!

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 22:03:10 (permalink)
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    A short cycle would be ok.

    Do they have independent lab tests on their HDrol?


    I dont think so, they are a new company but i believe others have used their products successfully.
    THe cycle wouldnt be too much shorter just 100 caps worth rather than 112 on m118s suggested cycle


    Hmmm... I don't trust all these new companys without independent lab test especially when it comes to DS/PHs!


    then pm me your address i will send you some free to use you will soon change your mind!

    now that's customer service!
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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 22:07:09 (permalink)
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    i find that highly insulting to be honest,do you really think i would spend 1000;s on web site design,advertising,raw materials to put out bunk products??
     
    behave yourself!

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 22:12:31 (permalink)
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    I feel bad mate, i hope this thread hasn't caused any grief.

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 22:28:01 (permalink)
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    Dragon nutrition

    i find that highly insulting to be honest,do you really think i would spend 1000;s on web site design,advertising,raw materials to put out bunk products??

    behave yourself!


    Please don't take my post(s) personal.
    I don't have anything against you or your products and nobody said your products are bunk. I only said i always like to see independent lab test before taking a DS/PH.

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/01 22:35:02 (permalink)
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    i find that highly insulting to be honest,do you really think i would spend 1000;s on web site design,advertising,raw materials to put out bunk products??

    behave yourself!


    Please don't take my post(s) personal.
    I don't have anything against you or your products and nobody said your products are bunk. I only said i always like to see independent lab test before taking a DS/PH.

    ok sorry i was a bit defensive there! its just ive invested so much time and money here and being the perfectionist i am i took it slightly wrong!
     
    my take on lab tests is this,they are only as accurate as the person carrying out the test,and its easy to try and give a competitor a bad name by publishing fake tests,just as its easy for me to publish fake tests showing my products are all correct!
     
    the supplement world is cut throat,im only interested in real world results!
     
    the testing logs will dispell any reservations you have im sure.
     
    my offer stands to send you some free to try.

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    Re:Suggestions please!!! 2011/04/02 10:23:31 (permalink)
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    Take up that offer!
     
    Hdrol cycle is usually ran for longer that 4 weeks which is also ideal for a recomp rather than a 4 weeker.
     
    Use the $ saved by getting some of the cycle support and Test boosters mentioned in this thread along with a SERM PCT and you should have great results from an all round complete cycle.
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