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Super stack 10 weeks 5/5

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2006/07/10 16:10:46 (permalink)

Super stack 10 weeks 5/5

Ghostman got me thinking (and spending) with an old thread on what supplements would you use if money were no object.

I have come up with a supplement plan with 5 weeks of balls to the wall cutting followed by balls to the walls bulking. This means maximum fat loss while preserving muscle AND still having energy and focus at work (using NO stimulant fat loss products). For mass the idea will be to add as much muscle without fat over 5 weeks.

I have been out of training for nine (9) years due to “life” and now I am back with a vengeance!

I spent the first 6 weeks back in the game hammering out diet and workout and feel it is fine tuned now. I have lost 1 kilo a week for weeks 7-11 (5kg 5 weeks) and lost 2 kilos the fist week with my super cutting stack. I am entering week 2 now and will report in on Mondays work permitting.

I have before pictures from last week and will post at week 5 with after pictures of the cut cycle.

The next two posts will be my cutting stack (non stimulant)

And

My bulking stack (all natural)
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    Hygar
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/10 16:11:04 (permalink)
    My cutting stack (non stimulant)

    ALCAR 3g 4x per day (12g per day) (been using for 6 weeks)
    Greet Tea Extract (about ½ a gram per day (been using for 6 weeks)

    New to cut:
    Camphibolic (6x day per label)
    Cissus (6x per same as cAMP)
    Sesathin (2 twice a day 4 total)
    UDO’s Oil soft gels (2 twice a day 4 total)
    Nitirx (12 per day) (hell I have it why not use it)
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/10 16:11:31 (permalink)
    Bulking:
    Powerfull 8 per day
    Symmetry 8 per day
    Cissus 6 per day
    CEE 6g per day (tablets)
    Nitirx (12 per day) (hell I have it why not use it)
    Waxy Maize starch (80g post workout)
    http://www.intensemuscle.com/showthread.php?t=14926&highlight=waxy
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/10 17:09:08 (permalink)



    I sent you a email!
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/10 17:36:56 (permalink)
    ALCAR 3g 4x per day (12g per day) (been using for 6 weeks)
    Greet Tea Extract (about ½ a gram per day (been using for 6 weeks) THIS HAS VERY LITTLE FAT BURNING PROPERTIES

    Camphibolic (6x day per label) THIS CONTAINS CISSUS
    Cissus (6x per same as cAMP)
    Sesathin (2 twice a day 4 total)
    UDO’s Oil soft gels (2 twice a day 4 total) THIS HAS NO FAT BURNING PROPERTIES
    Nitirx (12 per day)

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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/10 18:26:42 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Hygar

    Bulking:
    Powerfull 8 per day
    Symmetry 8 per day
    Cissus 6 per day
    CEE 6g per day (tablets)
    Nitirx (12 per day) (hell I have it why not use it)
    Waxy Maize starch (80g post workout)
    http://www.intensemuscle.com/showthread.php?t=14926&highlight=waxy




    how much have you gained off this bulking stack and in what time period?

    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

    main interests: physique conditioning, bbj, muay thai.
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/10 19:58:19 (permalink)
    Cliff,

    Thanks for the input but I knew all that already. I guess the UDO's should have been listed as "diet support for a lowfat diet".
    Nitrix has no fat loss value that I know of BUT I keeps me mentally alert while on a dieting.

    Stone,

    I start that stack Aug. 6th and have enough for 5 weeks. I will report my gains then with before and after pics.
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/10 20:35:31 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Hygar

    My cutting stack (non stimulant)

    ALCAR 3g 4x per day (12g per day) (been using for 6 weeks)
    Greet Tea Extract (about ½ a gram per day (been using for 6 weeks)



    See my post here mate : http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.asp?m=1236737
    I have read many people report excellent results with adding some ALA (either RALA or K-R-ALA to the ALCAR and GT) ...

    Although the original anarchy stack contains CLA many ran the stack without CLA and reported excellent results and recently I have seen posts where people have replaced the CLA with Sesathin.
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/10 21:24:51 (permalink)
    Shazad,

    I will look into adding ALA, Thanks!
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/10 22:00:27 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Hygar

    Stone,

    I start that stack Aug. 6th and have enough for 5 weeks. I will report my gains then with before and after pics.



    cheers i would appreciate that

    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

    main interests: physique conditioning, bbj, muay thai.
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/27 22:55:45 (permalink)
    I hit my traget wieght early so I started my bulking cycle early (July 19th) with this stack:

    Bulking:
    Powerfull 8 per day
    Symmetry 8 per day
    Cissus 8 per day
    CEE 6g per day (tablets) <---DROPPED not using anymore
    Nitirx (12 per day) (hell I have it why not use it) <---DROPPED not using anymore
    Waxy Maize starch (80g post workout)
    http://www.intensemuscle.com/showthread.php?t=14926&highlight=waxy

    Just over a week into it pump and strength are up (85kg bench for 5 is now 85kg for 9) but food intake is higher so that would also help with strength. I thought I would see a drop in strength with no CEE but it did not happen.

    Not sure how much of a role the 1000Kcal extra food is playing yet but I am pelased with the results so far.

    I will update next week.
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/28 10:17:32 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Hygar
    Powerfull 8 per day
    Symmetry 8 per day
    Cissus 8 per day


    Interesting.

    What is the difference between these products, especially between the Powerfull and Symmetry?

    Google provided very limited information on Symmetry.

    When I was a young boy, my father took me into the city to see a marching band. He said, "Son when you grow up, will you be the saviour of the broken, the beaten and the damned?".
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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/28 11:03:47 (permalink)
    Symmetry is just another (stronger) type of cissus extract that claims to extract maily the 4 most potent anabolic extracts from cissus (working from memory).

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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/07/28 14:23:14 (permalink)
    Interesting thread here :

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/synergy-muscle/49915-can-someone-splain-p-full-symmetry.html

    Interesting reply, in response to a question asking what is symmetry - "Symmetry is a special extract of cissus not PowerFULL. We are working on full write ups" by their rep dated 23/07/06.

    Therefore, I was just wondering on what basis you decided to run Symmetry?
    post edited by Dirty Mexican Tramp - 2006/07/28 14:24:09

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    RE: Super stack 10 weeks 5/5 2006/08/09 19:50:34 (permalink)
    OK, I have stopped the bulking stack early…

    Powerfull 8 per day
    Symmetry 8 per day
    Cissus 8 per day

    I now weigh 2lbs less but look much bigger in the mirror, I have also pulled my belt in 1”. Even after dropping CEE my strength went up.

    The reason for the early stop is I will be changing supplement stacks every 4 weeks to help slow diminishing returns.

    My new stack starts today and is

    Anagen 6 per day
    Activate 8 per day
    Restore 3 per day
    CEE once every 3 weeks on workout days (2.5g)
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