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2005/08/04 02:02:39 (permalink)
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Supplements for cutting

I have a bit of money, and seeing as myprotein.co.uk and wheyconsurtium are so cheap thought id try lots of supps. On my list there is;

Whey protein
and Ephedrine

Can you guys just comment on the following and how useful they will be to me, ive heard so many contrasting opinions;

L-glutamine
Taurine
BCAA
L-Tysorien

And a side note;

Will creatine be benefical during a cut? doesnt it mostly retain water?

Cheers
BCAA

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    Yib
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 02:08:28 (permalink)
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    Creatine is alright, you can drop it at the end if you still retain water.........

    I'd stick to the whey. The BCAA can come in handy. Some kind of fat burner can act as the icing on the cake.

    The main thing is diet though. Use your cash to buy proper food.

    How severe is this cut going to be and for how long? Where are you now statswise?

    nForce
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 02:20:59 (permalink)
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    currently 15st 7lbs, down from 16st 3lbs, in 4 weeks

    id say im now around 20% bodyfat, looking to get down to 10%, so another 24 lbs to loose about, which is 12 weeks left

    currently only thing i take is multivits and whey protein
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 02:53:42 (permalink)
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    Hmm...well it's up to diet really and cardio.

    The creatine can give you a bit of an edge with the training if you're a responder.
    The fat burners can help a bit.
    The BCAAs and whey depends on how you use it in the diet..but in the end..it's up to diet.

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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 02:55:25 (permalink)
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    its just sometimes i feel tired and have little energy to work out

    plus i do 1.5 hrs of kickboxing a night, so im just thinking of what supplements could help me,
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 03:00:14 (permalink)
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    Creatine will help then. Manipulation of diet would too though...to some extent.

    Caffeine and a couple other things can keep you awake and stuff lol. I'm not too clued up on these things so I'll leave that to the others. Good luck with the cut.

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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 04:29:04 (permalink)
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    use like a fat burner or caffine um a good diet is your best bet. creatine i have found to help me maintain mass but have water retetion
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 10:49:54 (permalink)
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    Hi nForce

    I take do kick-boxing 4-5 nights of the week as well so I know the strain it can put you under. TBH I have turned to supps for the first time to help me with the sport as well. I have used supps before for weight training but never for material arts.

    Before I start the guys are right with regard to your diet. This is something I have never really tried to change and I have to say I have felt much better for changing my food by cutting out crisps, cakes, chocolate, swapping white pasta and bread for brown and eating plenty of fruit and veg etc etc

    But back to the supps to help with cardio training like Kick-boxing I think creatine is a winner. I have been using for the past 4-5 weeks now and have noticed a difference in my overall performance especially when fighting; I am finding I can go much longer with out needing to take time out. I have recently bought some CEE, which I started taking yesterday so not long enough for me to comment but I will let you know how I go with it in a few weeks if you want? I also use whey too, to help feed the muscles and help them grow. With this I usually have a shake at 11 and another at 3 o’clock although I have since found out that my 3 o’clock one maybe better an hour after my work out so I maybe changing this shortly.

    One product I would not take is EAS Phosphagen. I used a tub of this stuff before when weight training and I found that no matter how much water I drank I could not get hydrated. This leads me to think that would be no good with Kick-boxing as I get through a bit of water any way especially taking normal creatine.

    Re your point on energy again I agree with the lads. I usually pop a few pro lab caffeine pills before I go up to fight at competitions for an extra boost, which works well for me. But I would not bother for your normal work outs. I noticed in your post you put you work out for 1.5 hours everyday so you maybe feeling tiered from over training. I have at least 2-3 days off a week from my training to allow myself to recover although I will still do a quick 2 mile run in the morning of these rest days.

    I hope this helps
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 18:30:27 (permalink)
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    yo nice info mate, appreciated.

    i will defo look into creatine, i already have cut out all the crisp etc, im cutting, so my energy levels are low

    think im gonna get soem whey, ECA stack, and creatine

    anyone got any info on

    taurine
    l-glutamine
    BCAA?
    nForce
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 19:07:08 (permalink)
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    Just had a look at bulkpowders.co.uk and its confused me even more?

    could someone just give me an exact list of specific products id need, theres just so many around its not even funny ..

    like which TYPE of creatine should i get lol
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 19:16:13 (permalink)
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    If you have money and want a wicked cutting stack try this

    Designer Supplements Lean Xtreme
    Avant Labs Phenogen
    Avant Labs Sensithin
    SNI Hydroxytrim

    Working wonders for me .... and my cals are pretty much maintenance .. this is a great stack for steady fat loss and muscle preservation .. expensive though


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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 19:20:21 (permalink)
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    i can get hold of ephedrine? if thats any use?

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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 19:24:48 (permalink)
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    Hydroxytrim has that mate .. classic ECA stack

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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 19:28:45 (permalink)
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    how much is that stack gonne cost me

    and what sort of creatine should i get? and ps, preferably supplements from one of these bulk sites,cos theyre cheap as hell :)
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 19:38:38 (permalink)
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    £130 ....

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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 19:42:08 (permalink)
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    I'm wondering the same thing, although I personally want to steer clear of the fat burners and stuff, not only cuz they're expensive but because they contain ephedrine, now a banned substance in most sports.

    I have a 1kg tub of CEE but I don't want to start using it till I'm bulking again, where the effects will be put to good use ie. increased strength, I don't see the point in significantly increasing your lifts on a cut as you're not going to gain muscle from it are you?

    Same with taurine, I'm gonna get some of that but leave it till I'm bulking again.

    I guess theres loads of stuff you can take, but they're no substitue for cardio and diet are they?
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 21:34:04 (permalink)
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    true, but supplements give you that extra edge

    and in my case, more energy and better recovery for my cardio and training
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 21:43:54 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: sillynarbie

    I have a 1kg tub of CEE but I don't want to start using it till I'm bulking again, where the effects will be put to good use ie. increased strength, I don't see the point in significantly increasing your lifts on a cut as you're not going to gain muscle from it are you?



    It is normally utilised during cutting phases to prevent strength/performance levels dropping.

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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 21:51:18 (permalink)
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    PartyBoy

    could you make a post in here for essential supps IN YOUR OPINION what should be used whilst cutting, to give enrgy for cardio i.e. 1.5 hrs of kickboxing a night,and for weightlifting. Also for fatloss, maybe recommend a stack?

    Becuase i am totally lost.
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    RE: Supplements for cutting 2005/08/04 21:55:40 (permalink)
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    Some good prices: http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_640118/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#640118

    I think if you buy from MP they will price match
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