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2014/12/10 09:23:11 (permalink)

Sust and deca for first cycle?

Hi there im 23 years old, bmi around 25, weigh around 13 stone

Would just like to ask any info on stacking sust and deca for first cycle, seen a lot of people say drop the deca for your second cycle and see how u react? I am getting as much info as possible before starting this cycle im aware i need a proper pct (nolva etc) and have anastrozole at hand, was going to run sust at 250mg and the deca at 100-200mg and possibly dbol

Any advice would be great 😊
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Re: Sust and deca for first cycle? 2014/12/10 09:29:38 (permalink)
Hi, this needs to be in the Steroids forum really mate.
 
Yes I agree with the advice you have been given, for a first cycle it is best to keep things simple and only run one compound.
Sustanon or Test. Enanthate , Test Cypionate would all be good for a first cycle.
 

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Re: 2014/12/10 09:44:38 (permalink)
13 stone? How tall are you
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Re: 2014/12/10 10:05:18 (permalink)
Roughly 5'10
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Re: 2014/12/10 10:07:13 (permalink)
Roughly 5'10
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Re: 2014/12/10 10:11:26 (permalink)
Yes fine would run 500mg Test plus 200mg Deca then 4 weeks D bol at 30/40mg kick start head over o toas for more info. 

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Re: 2014/12/10 10:23:56 (permalink)
For first cycle? The most advice i have been given was to drop deca to see how body reacts
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Re: 2014/12/10 10:45:29 (permalink)
My first cycle was test cyp only and it worked well, I'd stuck with just test. Just make sure you have an ai like adex and plenty of Nolva just in case of any gyno. Better safe than sorry
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Re: 2014/12/11 20:23:17 (permalink)
The reason people say stick to one compound on your first cycle is you don't know what sort of sides your likely to get, if any.
I don't see an issue with stacking on your first cycle, you will just have to be prepared to come off the gear if things go wrong which isn't fun. 

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Re: 2014/12/11 22:04:38 (permalink)
No need for deca in my opinion, test will do a lot for you. I'm more concerned about the bmi reference, it suggests you're not ready.

What are your goals, why steds now? Training history? Lifts....... etc
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Re: 2014/12/11 22:33:54 (permalink)
My goals are to achieve a bit of shape in my body and generally grow , i guess im looking for the easy , quick route and faster results
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Re: 2014/12/12 00:33:29 (permalink)
everyone has their opinion on what you should do mate. thing is this is the only time you will have a first ever cycle. i started with dbol only for 6 weeks and loved it - LOVED it, gained a stone and frankly never really looked back.
 
on deca and sust i'd have gained easily twice that, would i have loved it? hell yeah!
 
but would it have been just a tiny bit obvious? yup! 
 
the better question to ask is how much do you want to gain? over say 10 weeks.
 
do you want everyone to know you're on gear or like me would it be frowned upon, maybe my your family or friends or in work even as gaining 2 stone on a sust/deca cycle (and i'm only going on what i personally would gain on that cycle - you may gain more or less than me) will leave stretch marks, you'll need a totally new wardrobe as nothing you currently own will even almost fit.
 
so for me the best question you can ask right now is - how much do you want off this one cycle?
 
don't worry about side effects etc just yet - if they happen we're all here to help reverse them anyway, you'll never be left alone mate. even the people on here telling you not to do it will post helping you out if you DO it anyway!
 
so forget about the drugs, post saying i want to gain x Lb's from my first cycle over a period of x weeks. ask the poster to tell you their body type when they did their first cycle - if you're naturally skinny, there's no real point compairing your gains with someone who started out on the chunky side, compare like with like - find someone similar to yourself when they started and use them as a benchmark.
 
this person will not be me - at 25 i was 8st 2lb, i'm 15st now with a lower body fat % and 42 yo.
 
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Re: 2014/12/12 00:33:59 (permalink)
oh and as no one else has said it
 
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Re: 2014/12/12 04:36:22 (permalink)
Thanks bro, well to be honest i wouldnt mind if it looked obvious i was on the juice, it is common where im from but yes some people do frown upon it, as u said its a personal decision, ive done dbol before and yeah i seen some good results before it drained away :( i just want to know if a stack for my first injection cycle would be a bit intense.
P.s thinking abt first couple of weeks adding dbol
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Re: 2014/12/12 06:55:22 (permalink)
My very first cycle was pharma sust and deca 1ml per week of each transformation was amazing only ran for 6 weeks knowing what I know now and how to utilise each compound I wouldn't of ran that cycle
You will gain from whatever cycle you chose first time round but it may not be the best idea if it was me id go for 500mg per week of test and 30mg dbol per day 4-6 weeks 👍
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Re: 2014/12/12 06:58:15 (permalink)
I have 12 week cycle of sus and deca so lookin to run longer than 6-8 weeks
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Re: 2014/12/12 06:58:56 (permalink)
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Re: 2014/12/12 07:03:18 (permalink)
Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: 2014/12/12 07:57:20 (permalink)
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I have 12 week cycle of sus and deca so lookin to run longer than 6-8 weeks

I wasn't saying 6 weeks was right I had wrong information at a young age deca for me has to be run 12 week minimum anyway also run your test longer than the deca or drop the deca 2 weeks before you finish your test
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Re: 2014/12/12 21:38:13 (permalink)
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Thanks bro, well to be honest i wouldnt mind if it looked obvious i was on the juice, it is common where im from but yes some people do frown upon it, as u said its a personal decision, ive done dbol before and yeah i seen some good results before it drained away :( i just want to know if a stack for my first injection cycle would be a bit intense.
P.s thinking abt first couple of weeks adding dbol



gains will come thick and fast man especially if you add dbol for the first 3 weeks.
 
for very obvious results:
 
week 1-3 30mg dbol ed
week 1-12 500mg sust
week 1-10 400mg deca
 
pct (so the results dont' just drain away) starts 3 weeks after last sust injection
 
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post edited by voodoo ninja - 2014/12/13 05:18:16

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