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2014/12/10 09:32:46 (permalink)

Sust and deca stack for first cycle?

Hi there im 23 years old, bmi around 25, weigh around 13 stone

Would just like to ask any info on stacking sust and deca for first cycle, seen a lot of people say drop the deca for your second cycle and see how u react? I am getting as much info as possible before starting this cycle im aware i need a proper pct (nolva etc) and have anastrozole at hand, was going to run sust at 250mg and the deca at 100-200mg and possibly dbol

Goals:to grow biggers muscles and body and later do a cutting cycle afterwards

Any advice would be great 😊
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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 09:48:29 (permalink)
    Yes I agree with the advice you have been given, for a first cycle it is best to keep things simple and only run one compound.
    Sustanon or Test. Enanthate , Test Cypionate would all be good for a first cycle.
     

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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 09:51:44 (permalink)
    As to doses : 500 mg a week of one the Tests that I gave in my first answer run for 8 to 12 weeks.
    Followed by a good PCT should give you excellent results if your diet, training and rest/sleep are dialed in.
    One should always have some Nolvadex/Tamoxifen at hand in case you experience any Gyno symptoms.
     
    It really is best to keep things simple until you have built up some experience with AAS to get the best out of them IMO.
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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 10:04:16 (permalink)
    Thanks a lot, would i best be doing 500mg of sustanon split into 2 pins a week, say monday and thursday? And what would your opinion on dbol in the mix aswell?
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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 10:09:22 (permalink)
    You would be fine with 1 jab a week with sust IMO. I'd stick with test for your first cycle - you'll grow well anyway (assuming diet and training are nailed) and it's good to know how you get on with a simple test cycle first.

    Eg if you have some bad sides how will you know which compound is causing them?

    Also most people here will want to know how long you've been training etc before starting on gear before giving advice.
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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 10:19:50 (permalink)
    1 jab of 500mg? Thanks, iv been training for the last 3 years but i did have short spells of stopping due to personal reasons (anxiety +depression) but after new year when i have enough research on my course i will start a sustanon course by the looks of it now as i have sus+deca at hand
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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 10:21:09 (permalink)
    Also would dbol be good to stack with sus , ive tried them before and body reacted well
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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 10:29:03 (permalink)
    So this isn't your first cycle? I'm confused :/
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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 10:32:23 (permalink)
    Only used dbol before not injections
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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 12:53:42 (permalink)
    Ah O.K. so first injectable cycle.
     
    If you have it then the Dbol can be used for the first 4 weeks of your cycle while the test is building up.
    20 to 30 mg a day is sufficient IMO and can give a nice ego boost with the water retention pump. 
    Sustanon is fine to inject once a week due the various esters. Test Enth, Cyp are better injected twice a week.
      

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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 13:27:49 (permalink)
    Yeah i noticed it was a bit of a mix , so toppin it up once every 7 days 500mg is fine? Really thinkin about dbol, do u have any knowledge if tren would be worth it?
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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 13:37:44 (permalink)
    That`s how Sustanon is designed, its intended purpose is TRT.
     
    Tren?? NO not until you have run more cycles and have a really good  knowledge of how you react to AAS.
    Tren is a totally different compound to use with some really nasty side effects; not at all suitable to any one but a seasoned user and even then needs to treated with respect and caution. 
    It can seriously screw your endocrine system up and cause some really negative mental issues.
    Keep things as simple as possible.
     

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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 14:01:30 (permalink)
    Would i be able to run the deca afterwards after pct or would i need more test
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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/10 15:29:54 (permalink)
    Deca needs to be run with some Test if you wish to maintain any sexual function.
    I suggest some more research before you commence a cycle.
    So you have already purchased the Deca  ?
    No offence but it is a good idea to carry out your research before considering buying any AAS.
    Have a read through the articles available here on MT to gain more knowledge before you go any further.
      http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/articles/articles-bodybuilding-steroids.aspx
     

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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/12 07:04:25 (permalink)
    Is this accurate?

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    Re: Sust and deca stack for first cycle? 2014/12/12 10:58:08 (permalink)
    Depends on the cycle you are planning to run.
    For bulking, personally I would have higher fats, more like 100 to  120 gram.
    But thats not a bad ratio, you need to try and experiment for yourself.
    "Cookie cutter" diets  and cycles  are O.K. for a rough guide but we all differ in our metabolisms, which is why you will see such variances and arguements/discussions when is comes down to diet

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