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2003/12/08 20:17:21 (permalink)

Sustained fear!

I don't know about the rest of you lot but i find the trip to the gym is a regularly terrifying and intimidating event.

For example, one week i lift the most weight i can for the most reps i can, it is excruciating, agonising hard work which i never want to repeat again.

Then next week i have to go and do more! More weight, more effort and this is scary, i always worry - "what if i can't, i only just managed to squeak through last week, now it's heavier!"

This is hard to perpetuate. Perhaps it is partly because of this fear of failure and the tortures of heavy training that i regularly fall backwards and have to start again...this is not flattering but it is honest and perhaps that which is responsible, in part, for holding me and my progress back.

If i had made steady incremental progress every time i trained i would be miles ahead of where i am now. In fact my deadlift, clean and overhead is currently way below what it was only months back, and my squat is a bit down. This is due in great part to what can only be described as mental weakness.

Everyone else seems so strong and together it makes me wonder if i am actually cut out for all this...i will continue but probably along the same predictable path, one step forward and two back.

Does anyone else here feel the same, is it just me?

AL

ps sorry to get all heavy and introspective on you[:I] but i value many opinions on here.
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    veganlifter
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/08 20:28:41 (permalink)
    mate i hear you, i feel it differently though. I'm exited to go to the gym, but sometimes I look at the weights in the bar and I start doubting... I start thinking, **** thats heavy, maybe I can't lift it and so on.

    When I was doing 5x5 and was totally wasted after the fourth 5 rep set I was often looking at the bar and thoughst came to my head about what if i dont get them all now, i need to do the same **** again next week if i don't nail it. I sometimes thought about this for a while and turned it into stubborn determination and thought "if i wont make this one, i need to lift the same ****ty weight next week so you better nail it you weak ass MF.." and so on

    The fear of progression slowing down is real though - but whenever that creeps in i read my trusted training log and see how much less i was lifting only a month ago...

    But, more often than not, I am exited to hit the weights and do some real damage. Especially yesterday at the meetup I was always rearing to go "is it my turn, is it my turn", lol! I wish i could have that kind of mentality in every session.
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/08 20:47:40 (permalink)
    Yes it is very different when you can train with a new / enthusiastic group. You want to do you best for them, you enjoy it more, it is all fresh and exciting. I think monotony can be a progress and confidence killer too.

    That is perhaps why people who post on here make good progress as they share their successes with others and feel like they have to lift more to impress everyone else - imo it is easier to perform in the gym for others or due to the desire to impress others than it is to perform on your own for yourself. And it is also possibly why you all hit pb's in your get together (well done btw!) Just like at competitions when your perform at the maximum in front of the crowd, you have no option but to perform. If only one could take that intensity and adrenalin rush to the gym - i certainly can't.

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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/08 20:55:58 (permalink)
    im exactly the same Al, this comes with heavy basic training, light workouts for reps or going for the burn you can turn up do it and thats it.
    i often sit at home and think about squat or dead day and do honestly get nervous because i know what is involved and what i need to do. one thing i did do is print off loads of pics of old timers lifting big iron Anderson,hepburn reg park etc and then keep those images in my head.
    the worst ever is trying the 20rep squat routine, if there is anyone out there who has followed it genuinely for 6-8 week cycles giving everything then i want to shake there hand. that whole 20 rep with your 10 rep max poundage thing. now thats mental toughness and a lower back of steel
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/09 11:10:34 (permalink)
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    that whole 20 rep with your 10 rep max poundage thing. now thats mental toughness and a lower back of steel


    I'm probably being thick here, but how can you do 20 reps with your 10 rep max weight?
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/09 11:21:46 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by CheekyChappie

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    that whole 20 rep with your 10 rep max poundage thing. now thats mental toughness and a lower back of steel


    I'm probably being thick here, but how can you do 20 reps with your 10 rep max weight?



    rest pause mate, many MT members have done these, try them out. You get to 10, easy, you rest for a few secs on top - without racking! - and take a few deep breaths, then do another rep, pause, rest, hit another and so on. I had pure pain after around 15 or 16 usually, though when i did these I was using quite low weights.
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/09 12:08:03 (permalink)
    It's cos you're not in what some call the comfort zone any more. Your body wants to hold back as you might strain yourself, tear a callous and so on. Every session when u are close to PB or in new territory is the same. It's only natural to worry a little. that said I find those sessions, once I'm at the gym, the best. Let's get ready to RUMBBLLLEE!!
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/09 20:16:24 (permalink)
    Due to inactivity, the thought of heavy lifting scares the **** out of me!
    The thought of lifting is actually seeming like a hinderance more than anything else at this minute in time
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/09 20:21:24 (permalink)
    Just stick with it all and rest when your body tells you too. I agree that working with a group, team, etc that its more exciting and competitive.
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/13 13:12:07 (permalink)
    I am actually considering going back to training on my own.
    I think some of my recent complacency may be due in part to my having to rely on someone else and if they don't go i don't go.
    I believe that i need to start putting myself first, doing what i want when i want. And start training with some serious conviction.

    Roll on some new successes in the new year, i bl##dy well hope so anyway!

    AL
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/13 14:22:39 (permalink)
    What you need is some sort of periodization.

    You cannot constantly strive to break personal bests week in week out. Not only physically, but mentally, you will burn out.

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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/13 14:45:06 (permalink)
    I do periodise my training, that is not the problem.

    Imo you don't have to try endlessly to reach 1rms to fear the weight.

    AL
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/13 16:24:42 (permalink)
    I'm with you on the 5x5, it certainly can be more intimidating than lower reps.
    Possibly, at least for me, this is partly due to my recent inexperience with that many reps. That may sound daft, 5 is not that many, but i think the heavier, lower rep's crushing efforts are in the mind when you have to face a fourth and even a fifth rep. Consequently you are anticipating these reps being worse than they may turn out to be.

    I hope that wasn't too rambling an explination![:I]

    As for the harnessing of nervous energy, well i know what you mean, i experience it at competitions and with new groups of people but i find it very hard to generate that nervous reaction doing something approaching routine, in the same place with the same people.

    AL
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/14 10:45:13 (permalink)
    Yes si, everyone always seems to want to socialise and stand around chatting at the gym!

    I just want to walk in train hard and fast and get out! Works best for me.

    As i said earlier i can beat pb's and have great sessions with groups of new people but generally only if they want to get down to work rather than talk too much about it.

    Cheers

    AL
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    RE: Sustained fear! 2003/12/14 11:50:08 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Big-AL
    As for the harnessing of nervous energy, well i know what you mean, i experience it at competitions and with new groups of people but i find it very hard to generate that nervous reaction doing something approaching routine, in the same place with the same people.



    well something got 7 out of 7 guys to improve their PB's at manc MT meetup, nervous energy maybe for some, just the inspiration for others and maybe the hype and buildup for really giving it your all and other guys cheering and rooting for you, who knows. It worked all the same
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