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Switching meds mid-cycle?

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2011/03/20 16:45:09 (permalink)

Switching meds mid-cycle?

Hey all. Just looking for some opinions
 
In a couple weeks I start prep for a PL meet. Plan on running prop and tren for 10 weeks leading up to it. I want to stay on for a while longer afterwards (might be competing again in another 8 weeks or so, and tbh don't want to deal with coming off just as summer starts lol). I was thinking about adding in a longer estered test a couple weeks before the meet for a bit of an extra boost, and so after the first meet I won't have to inject every day.
 
Something like:
Weeks 1-10  -  prop and tren ace both 525mg/week
Weeks 8-18  -  test e 600-800mg/week
Going to run a bit of adex too
 
Done 2 cycles before, first was 500mg test e per week for 12 weeks. 2nd was 525mg tren and 350mg prop for 7 weeks. Got no bad sides from the tren other than being a bit tired
 
Diet is good right now, protein around 300g, and cycling carbs (been dropping weight lately, down to 243 from 300), and training is fine. Lifts 570/315/635 (pounds.. I don't do kilos aha)
 
Any thoughts?
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/20 17:07:06 (permalink)
     
    Deca for the long run? run oxy up to your meet ???
    Test suspension over the last 2 weeks??.
     
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/20 17:17:03 (permalink)
    I think an oral ,as silent-rep said Oxys are one and Dbol or Meth tabs ?
    On the inj side I would add Deca and up Test eth.
     
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/20 17:19:13 (permalink)
    I'll still be trying to cut so not sure about the oxy/deca?
     
    I like the thought of suspension. If I just run the prop/tren/suspension right up to the meet, then switch to a longer ester though would I esentially be coming off, then on again (short esters out of my system, long ester not kicking in yet)? Or am I totally wrong on how that works?
     
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/20 17:20:23 (permalink)
    Adding the deca during the weeks 8-18 Daz?
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/20 17:48:15 (permalink)
     
    I take it you've got to make your weight?.
     
    Though not a pl myself i've trained with pl/strongmen partners
    over the years,and they swear  by suspension.
    All so in pl limited experience then it's suspension,
    oxy,deca,test(esters) and tren.
    Maybe post in the power and strength section,
    they know their sh*t
     
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/20 20:31:16 (permalink)
    Yeah I need to be 242 at the highest. I'm only 1lb off right now, but ideally I'll be able to get around 230-235, and cut the water down to 220. I don't really want to bloat too much with deca/oxys making it even tougher to get down. I do really like the sounds of the suspension (although heard it hurts like hell haha)
     
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/20 20:35:29 (permalink)
    Also I am really curious about how switching the esters would work..
     
    If I just went straight onto test-e from nothing, it would take a few weeks to notice it. But going from prop to enanthate, would you still have those few weeks where the enanthate isn't really kicked in? So for a couple weeks it'd feel like I was off the prop, and the enan wasn't really working yet? Or would it be a smooth transition from prop to enan?
     
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/21 09:34:27 (permalink)
    I know a PL at my old gym who used Deca longtrem when pushing for power and he still holds great power from its use even when off and used Oxys for added push (One lifts ) there are sides with oxys one being the heavy headness.
     
    So running Tets eth and Deca up to second meet .
    With the veiw of added power of Oxys dropped in 2 weeks before.
     
    The cross over form each meds would be to add Test eth at 6 weeks this also with deca aswell .
     
    With all said ,added weight and water attention/bloat is an under lieing thing which you will be the best judge for that.
     
    I have PM you info on another med which i know has been used by PL .
     
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/21 13:47:07 (permalink)
    With all said ,added weight and water attention/bloat is an under lieing thing which you will be the best judge for that

     
    This will be an issue which is one of the reasons I was opting for the prop/tren combo. Ideally I'll be able to diet my way to 230-235 (243 right now, but expect to put some weight on the first couple weeks of the cycle) and then cut the water weight to 220.
     
    With deca/oxys I don't know if that would be possible? Might be better off just saving those for when all this dieting garbage is done with lol
     
    What about adding the deca/oxys in after the 10 week mark if I find another meet late-summer? By that time weight shouldn't be an issue. So run the prop/tren for 10 weeks, add in enan around week 8, then when I come off the prop/tren at week 10, introduce the deca/oxys (if I have another meet.. unsure so far)?
     
    Thanks for all the help
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/21 17:42:41 (permalink)
    The above sounds good to me,you have a good base plan now to go by.
     
    Good luck with the show .
     
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/21 18:14:07 (permalink)
    Thanks a bunch Daz, very helpful. I'll look into that other med you pm'd me about.
     
     
    I'll give this q one more try since it's really bugging me that I can't find the answer.. I feel like it should be obvious but I don't know lol
     
    If someone stopped running prop on the 20th of the month, then started running enanthate or cyp on the 21st.. would the prop clear their system before the enan really kicked in, or would it be totally unnoticable?
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/21 18:42:31 (permalink)
     
    As you say mate, a tough one!
    In the real world i don't think you'd feel much difference,
    possibly more psychological tbh, but i do think if tested 
    you'd see a drop in your test levels.
    Why not still run a bit of prop along side the e, and tapper it down over 2/3 weeks?.
     
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/21 19:02:35 (permalink)
    Cheers rep, kind of what I was thinking but opposite way - add in the e while still running the prop. Should keep the psychological issue at bay
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/21 19:18:52 (permalink)
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    Cheers rep, kind of what I was thinking but opposite way - add in the e while still running the prop. Should keep the psychological issue at bay


    I think that would work a treat.
    Wishing you all the best.
     
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    Re:Switching meds mid-cycle? 2011/03/21 19:36:34 (permalink)
    Thanks again guys
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