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2003/10/29 10:20:07 (permalink)

T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..?


Not used it yet. The general opinion at the gym is it is not what it is made out to be ...... and really is ineffective.

What are your experiences?

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    jabber
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 12:42:25 (permalink)
    I think it depends what you use it with, Personally I think Thyroxine or L-Thyroxine a bit dangerous to use as a fat burner unless stacked correctly. But it is effective at upping the metabolism to burn more calories. I have used it in the past to cut up and it did work. But you can't beat a clean diet with regular CV.
    I find its main usefulness is for use during HGH administration when your body needs more of everything including the thyroid hormones. Just use with care
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 15:06:39 (permalink)
    Nope thats bull bud, T3 is Awesome, those guys down your gym just need to know how to use it, the results are dose dependant and your peak run on it needs to be high, you need to be on 100mcg -150mcg per day, and let me tell you the fat will fall off you, you do however need to be on some test at the same time to protect your muscle mass, bbig
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 17:31:07 (permalink)
    t3 is an individuel drug and there is no perfect way to run it for every one. Its truest value is keeping the metabolism high while dieting
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 17:44:50 (permalink)
    Yep bbigman hit the nail on the head as usual, T3 is awesome stuff, I use it during bulking and cutting times sometimes for its anabolic effects with regard to prtein turnover and during cutting for bf loss,you must though as my friend says keep protein intake very high and some AAS also help support muscle mass.

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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 17:57:22 (permalink)
    I am going to use it for the first time need to drop about 8 pounds for a show thats fat not water i got 5 weeks left what sort of dosage u recommend my cycle is prop/tren/win thanks
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 18:01:19 (permalink)
    i used it and was please tho my doseage was a bit to low, i did however get a rebound effect as my diet got screwed post t3 and i put quite a bit of fatback on, so what the rebound effect
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 19:19:13 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Vdiamant

    I am going to use it for the first time need to drop about 8 pounds for a show thats fat not water i got 5 weeks left what sort of dosage u recommend my cycle is prop/tren/win thanks


    Usual doses for fatloss are 100 to 150mcg daily bro, get in that range and you will get results..............

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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 19:48:09 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by bbigman2000

    Nope thats bull bud, T3 is Awesome, those guys down your gym just need to know how to use it, the results are dose dependant and your peak run on it needs to be high, you need to be on 100mcg -150mcg per day, and let me tell you the fat will fall off you, you do however need to be on some test at the same time to protect your muscle mass, bbig




    interesting stuff mate,....wrongun's T3 taper says taper upto 105mcg then stay on 105 for 7 days before tapering down...do you agree?...

    pete
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 20:17:48 (permalink)
    Crackerjack makes a good point.

    Thyroid hormones are a lot more down to the individual than androgenic steroids are. Studies show that the same dose of T4 or T3 can produce different blood levels in different people.

    However, thyroid hormones cannot ever be "inneffective" unless they are fake. It's just that people need to find out what dose works for them. No one is immune, just some need more, some less.
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 20:29:22 (permalink)
    is 125-150 too high a dose for a first time user???
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 22:50:24 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Vdiamant

    is 125-150 too high a dose for a first time user???


    No not particularly although a more conservative start at 100mcg might be sensible and see how well you respond to its effects.

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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/10/29 23:19:57 (permalink)
    taapering is very important taper down slowly. i tapered up to 75mcg hen back down and got good results, it might be better to finsh t3 before steroids as coming of both at same time could make for bad hormonal crash
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/11/01 09:30:19 (permalink)
    me and t3 dont do well over 50mcgs while dieting and 25 mcg while bulking. I gues iam pretty senstive to its effects on my body. I recomend strong androgens with t3. Also i feel its best to be on as high of doeseages as possible while running it to keep away muscle loss. High protein is also a must iam talking in the 400g a day range would be excellent. Some day ill enter my journals about my t3 exeirences. But t3 slin cyp dbol tren and gh and clen are one inctreadble combo
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/11/01 10:18:04 (permalink)
    T3 is an excellent med if used correctly. The trick IMHO is to get upto maximum saturation quickly as this is where it is most effective. I advocate and what works best for me is 8 weeks cycle. This is where you go up quick and hold (longer than 7 days) and then slowley taper down so TSH levels can adapt.
    You need to know your body (i.e. saturation point). You need to be at saturation but NOT over active thyroid. Normarily this is somewhere between 100-150mcg ED (look for over active thyroid symptoms).

    Here is how i run T3 for maximum benefit:

    Days 1,2: 50mcgs
    Days 3,4: 75mcgs
    Days 5-18: 100 - 125mcgs
    And HERE IS THE CRITICAL STAGE:
    The SLOW taper. This is CRITICAL so that TSH levels
    are allowed to adapt to the dosage so that there is no crash.
    Days 19-22 : 125mcgs (or 100 depends on your max)
    Days 23-26 : 100mcgs
    Days 27-30: 75mcgs
    Days 31-34: 50mcgs
    Now, SUPER-SLOW(TSH will be VERY sensitive to ANY T3 now)
    Days 35-41 : 37.5mcgs
    Days 42-48 : 25 mcgs
    Days 49-56 : 12.5 mcgs
    8-weeks total.

    Wrongun!
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/11/01 14:29:31 (permalink)
    Wrongun,

    How many tablets would that roughly equal too?

    Thanks

    AR
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/11/01 14:47:56 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by AR

    Wrongun,

    How many tablets would that roughly equal too?

    Thanks

    AR



    Depends on your maximum dosage. If we say your maximum dosage was 125mcg and you followed my plan to the letter you would need (and assuming you have 25mcg tabs) you will need 157.5 tabs. They are sold in bottles of 100 so 2 bottles of cynomel required

    Wrongun!
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/11/01 18:25:17 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info will keep it in mind for next cutting up cycle :)
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2003/11/01 18:48:28 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by AR

    Thanks for the info will keep it in mind for next cutting up cycle :)



    You can use during a bulk cycle as well to great effect. Basically it is all about knowing your body and what compliments it best. Then construct the T3 around that (e.g. 6 weeks of best). Use the same rules (i.e. up and then down slowley).

    You can even use with clen on its own but would not advise just T3 it needs to be stacked to prevent muscle degredation

    Wrongun!
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    RE: T3.........EFFECTIVE OR NOT..? 2004/02/03 08:03:01 (permalink)
    GUys cheers for all the advice just 1 lst question

    ive got t3/t4 and this is only going on about t3

    it says start of on 50mcg of t3 for 2 days then build up but my tabs are 50mcg of t4 and 12.5mcg of t3 per tab that would mean to reach that dose ide have to take 4 tabs on day 1 to 2 by the middle ide have to take 10 tabs a day and ide be getting 500 mcgs of t4 thats **** loads what the hell do i do do is it bad if i get too much t4 and what should i do about the t3 can i lesser the dose

    help please
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