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2011/04/08 17:23:57 (permalink)
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TRT - Why ??

Have seen many posts also quite a few MT members are on TRT, either via the doctors or self-administered. I am an age nearly 50  where I don’t want anymore kids but want to continue with cycles throughout the year,  I may do just two but never more than this.  Doing this and then doing the PCT,  one subjects your body to Nolva/Clomid/etc…POM’s -  which as we know are quite harsh and not the friendliest Med’s.
Then this kind of makes me think,  why not just use a TRT dose in between cycles,  I suppose I am saying you are always on (so speak).  There must be some health issues doing this or are there ??
 
I would really like to know why some MT members do TRT in between,  what are there thoughts and reasoning’s behind them.  At the end of the day it is up to that person to decided to stay on permanently and deal with the health risk’s (if any…) as and when they come.
 
If one should decided to do this then I suppose the only way to see what is happening inside would be just to monitor your self regularly (blood test’s…)
 
Apologies in advance,  but I just find this an interesting subject at the moment.
 
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post edited by God Father - 2011/04/08 17:25:15
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    Medichecks
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/08 21:15:40 (permalink)
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    As you know I'm on prescribed trt sust 250 every 10 days(just had a jab tonight) as I have low natural test and to be honest it doesn't bother me one bit as life with low test well you don't have one. I'm 32

    And I know I'm no doc but I still don't get the I might want kids or not as for the amount of people I have heard of getting there partners pregnant on gear is a lot. Plus if you read the leaflet in the sust it says it boosts fertility
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/08 21:56:25 (permalink)
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    Cheers BMC for your thoughts, TBH I thought there would be more replies by now but Hey....
    Take care mate and all the best.
     
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/10 15:30:11 (permalink)
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    Bumping this up for the GOD FATHER as I know there's quite a few get prescribed and self medicate trt
    Come on guys give him some info
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/10 15:41:17 (permalink)
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    I don't have much info on TRT, currently trying out Dazc's 6on 6off method.
     
    However I did get my ex pregnant when I was on a test e cycle.
     
    I'm also quite interested in this TRT method, bmc: from what you're doctor tells you will being on TRT long term reduce the chances of having kids etc?
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/10 17:47:47 (permalink)
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    bmc
    And I know I'm no doc but I still don't get the I might want kids or not as for the amount of people I have heard of getting there partners pregnant on gear is a lot. Plus if you read the leaflet in the sust it says it boosts fertility

    Funny you should say that, I dont run many cycles, but the wife has ended up pregnant 3 times when Ive been running cycles of over a gram test.
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/10 18:32:10 (permalink)
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    irdan

    I don't have much info on TRT, currently trying out Dazc's 6on 6off method.

    However I did get my ex pregnant when I was on a test e cycle.

    I'm also quite interested in this TRT method, bmc: from what you're doctor tells you will being on TRT long term reduce the chances of having kids etc?

    i think Dazc runs 6on 4off?
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/10 18:41:12 (permalink)
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    My doc has never said it would effect me having kids he did say having low test would effect me having kids

    I'll let you know how I get on as once I'm off my roaccutane I'll give it a few months then we're trying again for a baby. In fact that will probably work in with my next test/deca cycle that seems to do the trick for me lol
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/10 18:52:59 (permalink)
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    OP - i'm on TRT dose of 250mg every 2weeks. Started a 10week cycle on Jan16th, will be competing in Sep, so my reasoning is i cant afford to run cycle for 10-12weeks improving physique, then do PCT and recover trying not to lose muscle for 12weeks, then i'm left with 12weeks till show to put on size that was lost in recovery and diet on top for show, so i'm hoping to use these 6weeks on "TRT" dose to hold what i gained and have a rest physically and mentally, then smack it up the a$$ for 16weeks. i'm very aware i'm staying on from jan to september, plus the Taper and PCT after, so best part of 11months on.
    I will then have blood tests every 10weeks and see how long is really needed to recover, if i actually do LOL, however i'm old enough and ugly enough to make up my mind, it may go tits up but that is the risk i'm willing to take, no more extreme than a tw@t on an R1 doing 200mph in shorts and T-shirt IMO, everyone has to justify their decisions LOL
    Anyway, you asked and thats my response, i'm sure everyone has their own take on the matter.
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/10 19:50:31 (permalink)
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    Yeah meant 4 off sorry mate
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/13 13:47:05 (permalink)
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    I am going to stay on as i have an injury and not training and just using pct meds wont help me keep my gains,also i am 43 and am sure ive had low test for years i get all the symptoms but on gear am fine.PCT meds cant be good for you tamoxifen is a last hope cancer med for women with breast cancer and the damage it does wont matter to them as they will be dead from cancer before the sides of the meds kick in it is to prolong life thats all. So although staying on test for ever might be bad for the heart how much is it worse than running pct meds at end of each cycle? No one realy knows as trials of men without cancer taking female anti cancer drugs is not going to happen, all i know nolva and clomid even more so mess up my vision and give me mood swings and i get very emotional on occasions too so i might stay on for ever on trt dose and blast and cruise.As BMC says if it does possibly shorten your life expectancy so what a long life is not as important as a good life imo and low test is no life its just an existance.
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/13 16:48:40 (permalink)
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    Hey BMC,  cheers for the "bump" matey.
     
    Some good responses here, I only asked the question as I REALLY thought about the PCT side of things (not saying I did not initially...).  I just asked myself as what damage they do cause (side effects etc...) in the long run.
     
    At the end of day,  I am a firm believer that everything in moderation.  By this I mean don’t do huge amount’s of test,  just use enough to achieve the end goal.  As we all know there is huge amounts of negative publicity out there with the use of steroids,  and also very little study/proof that indeed they do shorten your life, or “will that person suffer side effects” later on in life.  The last cycle I used TNT450, fantastic stuff,  felt really good and alive (so speak..  I am sure you know what I mean) and asked myself – why come off if you feel that good (bear in mind I am late 40).  We  don’t want anymore kids etc….
     
    At the end of the day,  if you bridge the TRT gap with cycles then what harm will this do.   It has to be a decision by that person on what risks (if any..) they are prepared to take,  either use trt in-between or just do short cycles (2/3 a year..)
     
    Thanks for the input/comments,  much appreciated.
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/13 16:51:16 (permalink)
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    Another quickie:
     
    trt seems to be every 10days/2 weeks with sust or can you use anything else ... 
      
     
    May I ask what brand this this without breaking any rules ??  viale/amps.
    post edited by God Father - 2011/04/13 16:53:07
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/13 16:58:08 (permalink)
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    TEST e or c can be used as it is a long ester med but i would sooner go for sust as it gives a more stble blood level.
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/13 17:05:10 (permalink)
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    I am in the same boat as BMC where by I have low natural test (age 29). I don't know if this is because of previous cycles or something else. I declined to tell the docs about previous cycles a few years back.
     
    I am waiting for results of a short synactin test that I had last week to see what the best way forward is. I get the impression from the docs that prescribing TRT is a last resort and they will prescibe other meds to try to stimulate your own test production where possible. That might be just my doc though.
     
    I have an appointment with the endocrine doctor next Thursday so we shall see.
     
    I'm hoping that I get on TRT TBH as I agree with what you say above. I'm not sure of the risks involved with being on TRT for the rest of my life so I might regret saying 'I hope I get on it' in ignorance. Further research required I think.
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/13 17:12:43 (permalink)
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    Why is it so hard for a man to get trt but easy for a woman to get hrt, surely this is sexual discrimination.
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    Re:TRT - Why ?? 2011/04/13 18:58:43 (permalink)
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    I'm using prescribed sust 250 every 10 days made by organon uk

    But as above you can use test e/c/d basically whatevers easiest for you to get
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