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Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen.

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2015/02/16 00:44:59 (permalink)
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Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen.

Hi,
I'm 31, 110KG, 192CM, 
 
I have been out of training for a while but have recently been training again consistently for the last 3 months. I've only been able to work out a couple of times a week thought and I'd like to step this up to 3 days a week weights/crossfit with 2 cardio days(spin). The reason I haven't been able to step this up yet is due to recovery times hence why I'm looking towards PEDs. I know I should probably wait until I have shed some more BF% but I have done a few cycles in the past to great effect and I'm keen on kick starting back into fitness with this stack. I have a nutritionist working with me on my diet and carb cycling and a personal trainer for guidance. I am into Martial Arts so goals are focused towards that such as to reduce BF% whilst retaining and adding on lean muscle and to improve strength and endurance. 
 
I'm thinking about Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen.
weeks 1-12
Test Prop 100mg EOD 
Tren Ace 75mg EOD
 
Weeks 6- 14 
Anavar 50mg ED
 
Clen (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) not sure about dose?
 
PCT
Clomid?
Looking for a bit of help setting up PCT and with supplements I should be running such as liver support.
 
 
 
 
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    Uriel
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    Re: Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen. 2015/02/16 08:02:27 (permalink)
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    I think using steroids for "recovery" is a bit cliché, especially since many steroids will actually bring down your energy levels even if they accelerate muscle protein synthesis (in fact the ones that are most effective at promoting MPS are often the ones most associated with lethargy, as the growing process itself puts strain on the body).
     
    Not saying you won't make gains from it, just that if you can only drag yourself to the gym twice a week now, that's unlikely to change simply from being on gear. For many people tren is also hazardous on their cardiovascular performance, and anavar can cause intense pumps to the point of pain, which would get in the way of something like CF and spinning. Have you ever used these drugs before and know how you get along with them?
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    Re: Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen. 2015/02/16 11:24:37 (permalink)
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    By recovery I mean recovering from muscle soreness more than energy levels.  I've found in the past I heal quicker from each session while on gear. I do admit I've not tried tren or anavar before but have done Sust, Equip, Dbol, Winny. I was picking the stack due to them fitting in with a cutting cycle and having low aromatisation. 
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    Re: Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen. 2015/02/16 14:11:51 (permalink)
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    Tren and cardio is not a good combination . 
    Equipose is your best option if you choose to run AAS, it can help with recovery and does not tend to cause the lethargy that other more anabolic AAS can cause. 
    I would recommend a low dose run for a long cycle, 500 mg to 600 mg a week .
    Even then it is advisable to keep an eye on B.P. and your Haematocrit  Ratio when using Equi. if you are doing a lot of cardio based activities. 

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    Re: Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen. 2015/02/16 20:53:24 (permalink)
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    Interesting, so you think equipoise would be more suited to my needs. 
    How may weeks do you mean by a longer cycle?
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    Re: Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen. 2015/02/16 21:29:02 (permalink)
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    Equ takes ages to kick in for me i would do at least 16 weeks
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    Re: Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen. 2015/02/16 21:44:29 (permalink)
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    Also what type of test if any should I run along side eq? Will it increase my appetite? I've only had it while bulking not while cutting.  What about winstrol rather that anavar if you think the pumps will be too painful?
     
    Could Test Prop, Equipoise, Winstrol be what I'm after?
     
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    Re: Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen. 2015/02/17 15:44:52 (permalink)
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    This looks like the one for me:
     
    week 1-4     
    Test P  100mgs EOD  
    Equi     600mgs EW    
    Dbol    25mgs   ED  

    week 5-8      
    Test P  100mgs EOD  
    Equi     600mgs EW     


    week 8-12      
    Test P  100mgs EOD           
    winny 50mg ED   
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    Re: Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen. 2015/02/18 16:59:46 (permalink)
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    I would say nevermind the d-bol, use the tren at a low dose (1/2ml) eod and get some GW-501506. And is there a reason your eq is only 8weeks? eq is a bare minimum of 12weeks. Go w/ tren (only if you get GW-501506)  for 8weeks eq for 12-16weeks prop all along and most definetly HCG 200iu's x 2/week and a great pct (research toremifene) 
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    Re: Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar and clen. 2015/02/18 19:09:05 (permalink)
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    This is what I'm going for now (orders in), I cut it down to 8 weeks due to the length of the esthers I want it to be out of my system before I start PCT. I talked it over with the guy at my local steroid clinic and that's what he recommended, also put me onto Mike Scallys PCT. Brilliant service by the way, blood-work done for free before, during and after the cycle.  I've also added in some orals for faster action at the beginning and the end of the cycle. I avoided the tren/var because of the pumps and cardio performance reduction.  
    week 1-4     
    Test P  100mgs EOD  
    Equi     500mgs EW    
    Dbol    25mgs   ED  

    week 5-8      
    Test P  100mgs EOD  
    Equi     500mgs EW     


    week 8-12      
    Test P  100mgs EOD           
    winny 50mg ED    
     
    week 13 Pause
     
    PCT (Based on Mike scally’s PCT programme)
    Week 1
    HCG 1000-2000 iu / shot   EOD – (5000iu in total first week)

    100mg clomid ED
    40 mg tamoxifen ED
     
    Week 2
    Optional HCG 1 – 3 shots or 1000-2000iu depending on requirements, (5000iu as a challenge dose in the first week and see how you get on)
    100mg clomid ED
    40 mg tamoxifen ED
     
    Week 3
    Clomid 50mg ED
    Tamox 20mg ED
     
    Week 4
    Clomid 50mg ED
    Tamox 20mg ED
     
    Week 5
    Optional tamoxifen 20mg ED

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