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2011/03/14 15:05:26 (permalink)

Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts

Anyone used the following combo?

As i like to ramble and insult people i'll give you some backstory....

Once upon a time, there was a man called doink who was planning a cycle on the old gear......

I won't bother explaining my dosing as i don't want any ear bashing, i've heard it all before and i know what sort of dose i need to run to get where i want to be from my past experiments so i'll leave it at that...

Is it worthwhile combining the 3 though? I know most do say one or the other but i've read a few tales about it being a good little stack for mass, Is deca worth the addition is basically the question. I did alright on just test and EQ last time but it was a pretty low dose in comparison and my diet was wank at the time, That's not the case this time around. I just feel that cycle was missing something.... a little... je ne sais quoi

I did intend to stick with Test/EQ at a good dose for around 15 weeks but i am tempted by deca and adding it at a low dose into the cycle. Mainly as my elbows are gay and often plague me post cycle i.e now.

Before anyone starts cracking one out and running for the morale high ground, I know i don't NEED to run more gear to grow, infact I'm well aware that i don't need to run anything close to what i'm running to GROW... but i respond a lot better at high doses and this won't be the highest dose i've ran deca or no deca.... So i will grow more using my own approach.

So no morale high ground lectures please.... You can stick them up your arse with the rest of the sh1t.... Constructive advice and informed opinion is what i'm after.

My aim is to bulk, not strictly a lean bulk as i spent a good time cutting and am planning to enjoy my food a little more but i'll be keeping cals clean and trying to keep fat gain to an absolue minimum via cardio and clean eating... and a fair bit of gear... so no post work out maccies this time around :(

i was going to stick with a high dose of test but i'm sh1t with bulking diets, i struggle to eat full stop tbh, cutting diets i piss, i'm awesome at cutting, i even enjoy it slightly.... but bulking is tough on me and last time around EQ made the food side a piece of piss, otherwise i'm force feeding, retching... it's not nice.... Hence EQ being a must for me here. Tempted by deca after seeing my mates results at a relatively low dose.

So it's either Test/EQ or Test/EQ + a low dose of Deca, i.e 250mg/300mg, It wouldn't be any higher than that.

Nothing silly by my own standards, Just a high enough dose to take me where i want to be at the rate i want to get there at.

Thoughts, additions (ha), Substitutions?

Cheers guys...
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/14 15:20:09 (permalink)

    coincidently I respond to higher doses as well 

    I would be more inclined to say run EQ with the test and deca. 
    Deca killed my appitite as I was running a decent dose I would think about adding EQ next time.
    the difference between deca and EQ was like night and day for me. Do you mind abit of bloat?

    would I add the deca? for mass I would not run anything else as I don't mind abit of water weight.

    600deca double that test and then add the EQ if you really want to. 

    you will have to give blood as some point tho and EQ and deca  increase hematocrit levels dangerously.




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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/14 15:27:34 (permalink)
    900mg test, 450mg eq and 450mg deca that should serve you well :) I asked many times eq with deca and many said yes mate
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/14 15:38:58 (permalink)
    I was looking at a gram and half in total for starters. That was 1g test, 500mg EQ.

    I'm pretty inflexible on those, that's the base without a doubt.

    1g test, 500mg EQ, 500mg Deca.... not much point running it at 250mg a week i'm guessing?

    Seems a bit OTT though.... straight in at 2g a week on a blast and cruise... where do i go from there?

    I could always drop the EQ a bit, 250mg EQ seems a bit pointless though....

    Not too arsed about water hench, i'll be running Aromasin at 12.5mg a day so that'l keep the worst of it off. I'm pretty lean at the moment anyway so i can carry it off for the duration with no major worries i reckon.

    It's a toughie....
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/14 17:12:55 (permalink)
    when are you planning on running it?

    I'm on about 1.8 g myself only been on 4 months its not that bad tbh. actually its pretty ****ing ace.  

    next blast will be the be somewhere the same maybe a few hundred more mgs of test just with insulin. I'm hoping that a 6-8 week cruise will enable to to gain quite nicely on the same dose. Might just run 2g of straight test but I like deca.

    I dont need this much to grow but by **** am I growing faster.




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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/14 18:48:17 (permalink)
    ive been reading up a bit about this cycle too as i struggle with appetite whilst bulking, but wouldnt be running the kind of doses you guys are talking. What dose does the EQ need to be ran at, was thinking test c 500-750mg & deca 400mg a week but dont know about the EQ? 
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/14 22:42:22 (permalink)
    i've ran 200mg Pharma Deca, and 400mg EQ.......without Test!!! And it was Fine, like many have said, you are either shut down or your not, their are not variations of, so to Nor 19 compounds cant be any worse than one Nor 19 compound at same combined dose?

    1g test/500mg EQ/and 200-300mg Deca will be nice IMO, bit of proviron just to help @50mg Ed and Aromisin 25mg EOD........Copy and paste that cycle for future i think LOL

    I have 2 friends running 2ml Test400 2ml Tren E and 2ml Deca and they look immense.
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/14 22:43:44 (permalink)
    MRENIGMA

    i've ran 200mg Pharma Deca, and 400mg EQ.......without Test!!! And it was Fine, like many have said, you are either shut down or your not, their are not variations of, so to Nor 19 compounds cant be any worse than one Nor 19 compound at same combined dose?

    1g test/500mg EQ/and 200-300mg Deca will be nice IMO, bit of proviron just to help @50mg Ed and Aromisin 25mg EOD........Copy and paste that cycle for future i think LOL

    I have 2 friends running 2ml Test400 2ml Tren E and 2ml Deca and they look immense.





    I still have deca here LOL no thanks


    Will do EQ after holiday I think :)
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 03:04:20 (permalink)
    At the moment I'm running 2g test 1g eq 450mg NPP (fast acting deca) along with 70mg dbol per day.  It's a nice mix, growing very fast.  LOADS of bloat though but then again I don't use AIs. 

    If I were you I'd go 1000mg test 500mg eq 500mg deca. 
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 09:07:24 (permalink)
    I still have deca here LOL no thanks
    sam solomi

    At the moment I'm running 2g test 1g eq 450mg NPP (fast acting deca) along with 70mg dbol per day.  It's a nice mix, growing very fast.  LOADS of bloat though but then again I don't use AIs. 

    If I were you I'd go 1000mg test 500mg eq 500mg deca. 



    For sure sounds nice,


    how do you find the npp to deca? how often do you jab it?
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 09:16:43 (permalink)
    Hench - have you ran Tren e with Test & EQ before, im interested in running EQ to help with with appetite but wasnt sure what doses to run at and if to run deca or tren with it. Would be running test c or sust at 500-750mg a week, only ever ran sust once in first cycle at 250mg a week so not sure about that yet


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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 12:30:00 (permalink)
    Guys, been thinking of running EQ.

    I don't know that much about it though other than it's supposed to be good for vascularity... Is it actually beneficial for big mass gains? And is it a very wet med similar to Deca? I'm looking for a lean non-bloaty bulk!

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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 13:11:08 (permalink)
    tribute1979

    Hench - have you ran Tren e with Test & EQ before, im interested in running EQ to help with with appetite but wasnt sure what doses to run at and if to run deca or tren with it. Would be running test c or sust at 500-750mg a week, only ever ran sust once in first cycle at 250mg a week so not sure about that yet



    Hi mate,

    never ran EQ with tren.  Only with some test.

    I will be adding it to my test and deca circa 600 next time though.  

    If you dont mind the bloat the I would use deca with test if you like staying abit leaner then run tren. This is just my views some people love tren for bulking. Dosage is up to you and how you tolerate sides with the meds. How did you like the 250mg/week last time?
    I find food gets even more important once you get to a decent weight.




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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 13:31:13 (permalink)
    hench - thanks for the reply, i would prefer to stay a bit leaner so might go for the tren at a lower dose than i previously used on cut, the night sweats got quite annoying towards the end but was good for strength. I was thinking maybe 750mg test c/sust, 200-300mg tren e but not sure what dose the EQ should be ran at because never used it. Any ideas?
     
    The 250mg sust was that alone on my very first cycle a few years ago, gains wasnt to bad but wish i had started at 500mg.
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 13:44:00 (permalink)
    I did think about 1g test, 500eq, 300 tren but i'm using tren for the recomp/cut afterwards and i think 6/7 months on tren would be a fvcking **** to recover from, i doubt i'd ever come back the same from that.

    8 weeks after 15 weeks on tren and i'm still feeling the effects.... I wouldn't run it for longer than 15 weeks in one hit, it's a killer for me. I'd do a 30-40 day pct next time i run it as well, 3 weeks nolva wasn't enough but it was all the time i had...

    I'll stick with the test/eq then. 1.5g to start with, i'll have a think about the deca, Reckon an AI will keep the bloat off alright....

    Go for 500mg on the EQ mate, i've ran it at 350mg and got on ok but i should have gone higher... I'll be using proviron at 50-100mg a day as well as it wasn't great for the libido either.
    post edited by Doink - 2011/03/15 13:45:09
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 17:27:25 (permalink)
    the EQ ideally needs to be 600mg's.

    I think high dose's work for everyone
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 17:37:17 (permalink)
    I can't be arsed splitting ml's mate, It comes in 500mg per ml so it was either 500mg or 750mg but that meant splitting ml's... i'd rather run 500 EQ, 250 deca than 750EQ tbh... 2ml of t500 in one quad and 2ml in the other would be pretty convenient.

    either that or stick to test/eq and 3ml in one quad... I'l see how i feel when i've mulled it over.

    I'll jab it all on legs day as well.... coz i'm 'ard.

     



    post edited by Doink - 2011/03/15 17:38:43
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 22:17:29 (permalink)
    atm mate im doing
    300mg deca, test e 600mgs(felt 750  was to big a step) and 600mgs of EQ its early days atm but its working well, what  ican say buddy is that i can see the lean muscle as well as the bulk with the deca. Im running letro with it so i get no watery false gain's.  
    Cardio wise im not convinced, walking to the gym is enough for me lol, infact thinking about it makes me sweat!
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 22:24:54 (permalink)
    Doink, do you just run the EQ to boost your appetite then? I really struggle with getting enough down my neck and I am due to start soon :) so am now wondering if adding in some EQ would help me there....
    post edited by ruskybaby - 2011/03/15 22:26:30

    Age 43, 6 ft 1 in,100 kg.....just getting back into it after my son was born a couple of weeks ago. Need to lose the BF that has built up.
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    Re:Test/eq.... Worth adding Deca? Thoughts 2011/03/15 22:32:19 (permalink)
    As you can see above im running EQ.
    it does help with appetite alot, but make sure you chuck out the junk food.
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