Testical pain - please advice - LH level is high
My name is Terence Lau.I am 29 years old and I stay in Malaysia. I really hope you can give me some clue to what is happening in my body. I am very sad and worried.
I hope YOUR GUYS can reply and give me some answers to me condition. Thanks.
I having testical pain ( minor pain but constant) everyday since when I took powder TongKat Ali root herb for a month in May 2005.
Please read below what is TongKat ali and how it causes pain to my testical and prostate.
My hair keeps dropping and it goes very dry. I used to have oily hair, but it seems that my is dry and it keeps dropping now. Perhaps I have taken it excessively. The tongkat ali drink or capsule is readily available in many convenient store since 2 years ago. I have stopped taking it since 1st of June 2005, but my testes is still painful at times ( like something poking or squezzing it)
I took it to increase my energy, but to my surprise the effect of TongKat ali is beyond that. I am so worried.
After weeks of worrying, I found out from many reliable website indicating Tongkat Ali root is a herb to stimulate the testosterone production in the leydig cells by interfering the HPTA ( Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis ) to continue producing Luteinizing hormone to stimulate the production of testosterone even though the testosterone level raises.
Luteinizing hormone (LH) in our body is used to produce testosterone
(On normal body condition, the LH level will fall or reduce when the body automatically detects rising level of testosterone)
When I read this, I was so afraid. Many other website also says that this Tongkat ali root herb produce more testosterone in the body by secreting more luteinizing hormone to stimulate the production of testosterone in the testes.
Taken from http://www.testingtongkatali.com/hormonal.htm
"Tongkat ali is the opposite of a testosterone agonist. But no, itâ€™s not a testosterone antagonist. Tongkat ali stimulates testosterone production by interfering with the testosterone negative feedback loop. Even when tongkat ali raises testosterone levels, the upstream pituitary and hypothalamus do not respond by signaling that testosterone synthesis should be tuned down."
Taken from http://www.911healthshop.com/lj100.html
Tong Ali works by activating the CYP17 (17 a-hyroxylase/17,20 lyase) enzyme to enhance the matabolism of pregnenolone and 17-OH pregnenolone to yield more dehyroepiandrosterone (DHEA) as well as the metabolism of progesterone and 17-OH progesterone to 4-androstenedione
I was so worried that I went to take a FSH, LH and Testosterone test.
First test in 20 June 2005
FSH is 2.0 miu/ml (Reference range 2.0 - 10.0)
LH is 5.7 miu/ml (Reference range 2.0 - 15.0)
Testosterone is 7.28 ng/ml (Reference range 2.41 - 8.27)
Second test in 19 July 2005
FSH is 2.8 miu/ml (Reference range 2.0 - 10.0)
LH is 8.1 miu/ml (Reference range 2.0 - 15.0)
Testosterone is 6.94 ng/ml (Reference range 2.41 - 8.27)
I have a few questions. Below are my questions. I hope you staff can reply
The doctor say this the TongKat Ali is the culprit to my testes pain and hair drop. He says that my testosterone level is at high range. What is a normal level of LH ? I noticed from many reliable websites say that a normal LH level should be around or at the same level as the FSH level. Is this correct?
Could the testical pain indicating the over-working of the Leydig cells to produce testosterone in my testical?
How is CYP17 ( 17a-hydroxylase) related to Luteinizing hormone and testosterone?
This tongkat ali activates CYP17. How do I reduce CYP17 or ensure that the HPTA ( Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis ) or testosterone negative feedback loop works by telling the body to stop producing Luteinizing hormone when the testosterone level is high?
Is my 8.1 miu/ml LH level high? It seems that LH level is higher than my FSH level. Does this indicate my Lh level is high? I understand that LH is one of the main reason of high level of testosterone.
Naturally, our body stops producing LH when our testosterone level raises. How does this herb interfere the HPTA ( Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis ) or testosterone negative feedback loop? This has cause my testosterone level and LH to raise too high and my testical is painful.
I do not have any testicular pain before. Now I have. My hair keeps dropping now and is very dry. Is this because of the high level of testosterone? Is my testicular pain related to this LH and testosterone level ?
Please reply. I have no where to find help, except through the internet. I visited a general doctor twice. He called me to drink a lot of water and the problem will subside slowly, but pain still remains after 2 months I stopped taking that crazy tongkat ali herb.
Have a nice day