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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/10 15:11:50 (permalink)
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I follow a nature account on instagram that genuinely stuns me at times. You want to see suffering and cruelty have a look at how animals die in the wild.


Is that a reason to needlessly cause suffering towards animals?


Perhaps you should ask your fellow vegans that:

https://www.telegraph.co....-storming-farm-cuddle/



I personally know people that were there, and have watched the live streams of what happened there, pigs were dead on arrival and already had flies on them.
 
Your an idiot if you believe everything you read

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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/10 15:15:29 (permalink)
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I follow a nature account on instagram that genuinely stuns me at times. You want to see suffering and cruelty have a look at how animals die in the wild.


There’s some truly stunning accounts on there I follow a lot. Nature is truly remarkable.

So that’s a no then BR you have never been on a farm 😂😂😂.


Well yes I have stepped foot on a farm. But if you want to know if I have any experience in the day to day runnings of farm life, then no I don't. But this ex farmer gives a good picture of what can happen on them in terms of the suffering and cruelty.

personally , Israel/palestine and the persecution of factions in the middle East by ISIS /Saudi/sharia are bigger concerns that farmyards BR. 




Its not 'either or' you know can care about multiple issues. People tend to us the 'theres bigger problems' argument to justify not making changes in their personal life. Do you think not paying for the suffering and death of animals means that you can not care about Israel/palestine?


I eat quorn so I've done my bit , I've never seen you do a equivalent topic other than animals , so practice what you preach beast!



Yu eat quorn, but don't mention what animals/animal products you do it, because you know you are paying someone to be cruel to animals. Before you point fingers at me, what are you doing to try and make the world a better place for animals and future generations? 

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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/10 15:18:01 (permalink)
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I follow a nature account on instagram that genuinely stuns me at times. You want to see suffering and cruelty have a look at how animals die in the wild.


Is that a reason to needlessly cause suffering towards animals?


Perhaps you should ask your fellow vegans that:

https://www.telegraph.co....-storming-farm-cuddle/



This just looks like an anti vegan hit piece to me. BTW I'm not even vegan. I just hate this sort of 'journalism'. Where's her evidence?


Yeah but if even one piglet was harmed thenbthats too many… Sorry went all lefty there.



Like I said, none were harmed. Also even if that was true, they'd all be dead in a few months anyway. Maybe if they weren't kept as slaves then there would not be a possibility of them being harmed.

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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/10 15:19:56 (permalink)
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anyone actually bothered to listen to the podcast, a lot of talking, but not much listening so it seems.

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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/10 15:36:38 (permalink)
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Has the UK farming industry got a good record concerning animal husbandry compared to other countries? I should imagine some countries, especially Asian ones are very cruel and crude in their farming methods. Not that I'm defending any cruelty that does happen in the UK.

 
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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/10 16:23:22 (permalink)
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I follow a nature account on instagram that genuinely stuns me at times. You want to see suffering and cruelty have a look at how animals die in the wild.


There’s some truly stunning accounts on there I follow a lot. Nature is truly remarkable.

So that’s a no then BR you have never been on a farm 😂😂😂.


Well yes I have stepped foot on a farm. But if you want to know if I have any experience in the day to day runnings of farm life, then no I don't. But this ex farmer gives a good picture of what can happen on them in terms of the suffering and cruelty.

personally , Israel/palestine and the persecution of factions in the middle East by ISIS /Saudi/sharia are bigger concerns that farmyards BR. 




Its not 'either or' you know can care about multiple issues. People tend to us the 'theres bigger problems' argument to justify not making changes in their personal life. Do you think not paying for the suffering and death of animals means that you can not care about Israel/palestine?


I eat quorn so I've done my bit , I've never seen you do a equivalent topic other than animals , so practice what you preach beast!



Yu eat quorn, but don't mention what animals/animal products you do it, because you know you are paying someone to be cruel to animals. Before you point fingers at me, what are you doing to try and make the world a better place for animals and future generations? 


I am not paying anyone to be cruel to animals , I am paying for chicken/beef/quorn, I havent paid much attention until recently of where these products came from I actually thought chicken fillets grew on trees and aggs where grown like potatoes, when you eat plant based products , animals are killed , so with that logic you are also paying for the cruelty to animals /rodents/insects , if you eat 1 kcal more thnecessaryary or carry out unnecessary activities then you cant really call yourself a vegan  or your as ignorant as me with my food choices . As for making the world a better place I am part of a political movement that educates poeple on the drawbacks of the state (use of force , tax is theft) and what freedom is. As for making peoples lives better i do a lot of fund raising/charity work for motor neurone disease as well as caring for a family member who has this, just don't feel the need to make threads about it . The bloke I care for has one joy , his food , his favourite being sausages , I have talked him into LMC sauages and he likes them .
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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/10 23:42:15 (permalink)
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I am not paying anyone to be cruel to animals , I am paying for chicken/beef/quorn, I havent paid much attention until recently of where these products came from I actually thought chicken fillets grew on trees and aggs where grown like potatoes, when you eat plant based products , animals are killed , so with that logic you are also paying for the cruelty to animals /rodents/insects , if you eat 1 kcal more thnecessaryary or carry out unnecessary activities then you cant really call yourself a vegan  or your as ignorant as me with my food choices . As for making the world a better place I am part of a political movement that educates poeple on the drawbacks of the state (use of force , tax is theft) and what freedom is. As for making peoples lives better i do a lot of fund raising/charity work for motor neurone disease as well as caring for a family member who has this, just don't feel the need to make threads about it . The bloke I care for has one joy , his food , his favourite being sausages , I have talked him into LMC sauages and he likes them .




So paying someone to intentionally end the life of another just so you can eat its body (something you don't need to do to survive) is not cruel. If I kill my dog for no reason other then pleasure would I not have acted cruelly? Like I have said 1000 times now, Vegans will cause farm just by existing on the planet, but buy not eating animal products  you are having less of an impact on animals and the environment, so stop trying to point the finger at others, and look at yourself. there are over 60 billion land animals killed every year, what do you think they all eat? If you are so worried about rodents and insects then you should stop eating animals because most of the plants grown is fed to them.
 
All you do for charity (unless its an environmental charity) is meaningless if we have no planet to live on in years to come: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report
 
But let me guess you don't believe in all that right?

I do a lot of push ups and sit ups. And I drink plenty of milk.

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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/11 12:47:52 (permalink)
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I am not paying anyone to be cruel to animals , I am paying for chicken/beef/quorn, I havent paid much attention until recently of where these products came from I actually thought chicken fillets grew on trees and aggs where grown like potatoes, when you eat plant based products , animals are killed , so with that logic you are also paying for the cruelty to animals /rodents/insects , if you eat 1 kcal more thnecessaryary or carry out unnecessary activities then you cant really call yourself a vegan  or your as ignorant as me with my food choices . As for making the world a better place I am part of a political movement that educates poeple on the drawbacks of the state (use of force , tax is theft) and what freedom is. As for making peoples lives better i do a lot of fund raising/charity work for motor neurone disease as well as caring for a family member who has this, just don't feel the need to make threads about it . The bloke I care for has one joy , his food , his favourite being sausages , I have talked him into LMC sauages and he likes them .




 
 
So paying someone to intentionally end the life of another just so you can eat its body (something you don't need to do to survive) is not cruel. If I kill my dog for no reason other then pleasure would I not have acted cruelly? Like I have said 1000 times now, Vegans will cause farm just by existing on the planet, but buy not eating animal products  you are having less of an impact on animals and the environment, so stop trying to point the finger at others, and look at yourself. there are over 60 billion land animals killed every year, what do you think they all eat? If you are so worried about rodents and insects then you should stop eating animals because most of the plants grown is fed to them.
 
All you do for charity (unless its an environmental charity) is meaningless if we have no planet to live on in years to come: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report
 
But let me guess you don't believe in all that right?


I believe the globe is warming , i do not believe in man made global warming until the science backs it up , with correct predictions and forecasts ( AL Gore had us underwater in 2011) , there is no solution, as a plant based eater you should be wanting a higher temperature as its much better than global cooling , as we would then need to use more fossil fuels to warm us all up. The way global warming is being sold to use is a giant hoax/carbon tax where nothing is fixed other than extra taxes and control of energy into cartels/monopolies/state owned.But I do understand confirmation bias and the ways our mind works and how it would be appealing for it to be correct in your world view . 
 
at the moment man made global warming is scientifically confirmed .
apart from all the scientists who disagree .
If you are classed as a denier for questioning the science , then this loses a lot of people because it becomes an ideological subject rather than a scientific one.
So rather than look at the actual data we fund the side that will put out papers showing that its real who skew the data with feedbacks and amplifiers which have been way off.
 
Does mowing down the amazon to feed cows seem right , absolutely not , but it shouldn't be rolled into the global warming/climate change scandal , it should be dealt with differently 
 
 
Also write a quick law/summary of what you would have passed in order to cure the world of animal cruelty/death that someone could easily follow/understand thats black and white , if you can do this then I might be with you. Please define 'unnecessary'. No ambiguity, that is open for interpretation , just a rule that can be followed.
 
All I do for charity is not meaningless , he would be dead without my help, I just don't make thread after thread about how much of a dogooder I am .
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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/11 20:30:59 (permalink)
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I am not paying anyone to be cruel to animals , I am paying for chicken/beef/quorn, I havent paid much attention until recently of where these products came from I actually thought chicken fillets grew on trees and aggs where grown like potatoes, when you eat plant based products , animals are killed , so with that logic you are also paying for the cruelty to animals /rodents/insects , if you eat 1 kcal more thnecessaryary or carry out unnecessary activities then you cant really call yourself a vegan  or your as ignorant as me with my food choices . As for making the world a better place I am part of a political movement that educates poeple on the drawbacks of the state (use of force , tax is theft) and what freedom is. As for making peoples lives better i do a lot of fund raising/charity work for motor neurone disease as well as caring for a family member who has this, just don't feel the need to make threads about it . The bloke I care for has one joy , his food , his favourite being sausages , I have talked him into LMC sauages and he likes them .




 
 
So paying someone to intentionally end the life of another just so you can eat its body (something you don't need to do to survive) is not cruel. If I kill my dog for no reason other then pleasure would I not have acted cruelly? Like I have said 1000 times now, Vegans will cause farm just by existing on the planet, but buy not eating animal products  you are having less of an impact on animals and the environment, so stop trying to point the finger at others, and look at yourself. there are over 60 billion land animals killed every year, what do you think they all eat? If you are so worried about rodents and insects then you should stop eating animals because most of the plants grown is fed to them.
 
All you do for charity (unless its an environmental charity) is meaningless if we have no planet to live on in years to come: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report
 
But let me guess you don't believe in all that right?


I believe the globe is warming , i do not believe in man made global warming until the science backs it up , with correct predictions and forecasts ( AL Gore had us underwater in 2011) , there is no solution, as a plant based eater you should be wanting a higher temperature as its much better than global cooling , as we would then need to use more fossil fuels to warm us all up. The way global warming is being sold to use is a giant hoax/carbon tax where nothing is fixed other than extra taxes and control of energy into cartels/monopolies/state owned.But I do understand confirmation bias and the ways our mind works and how it would be appealing for it to be correct in your world view . 
 
at the moment man made global warming is scientifically confirmed .
apart from all the scientists who disagree .
If you are classed as a denier for questioning the science , then this loses a lot of people because it becomes an ideological subject rather than a scientific one.
So rather than look at the actual data we fund the side that will put out papers showing that its real who skew the data with feedbacks and amplifiers which have been way off.
 
Does mowing down the amazon to feed cows seem right , absolutely not , but it shouldn't be rolled into the global warming/climate change scandal , it should be dealt with differently 
 
 
Also write a quick law/summary of what you would have passed in order to cure the world of animal cruelty/death that someone could easily follow/understand thats black and white , if you can do this then I might be with you. Please define 'unnecessary'. No ambiguity, that is open for interpretation , just a rule that can be followed.
 
All I do for charity is not meaningless , he would be dead without my help, I just don't make thread after thread about how much of a dogooder I am .


This thread isn't about me though, it's about the podcast I posted, which none of you watch, but all want to chimb in on the thread and make it about me. How about some of you actually watch/listen to what I post for once before posting in the thread, or that too much to ask?

I do a lot of push ups and sit ups. And I drink plenty of milk.

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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/11 21:03:18 (permalink)
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I am not paying anyone to be cruel to animals , I am paying for chicken/beef/quorn, I havent paid much attention until recently of where these products came from I actually thought chicken fillets grew on trees and aggs where grown like potatoes, when you eat plant based products , animals are killed , so with that logic you are also paying for the cruelty to animals /rodents/insects , if you eat 1 kcal more thnecessaryary or carry out unnecessary activities then you cant really call yourself a vegan  or your as ignorant as me with my food choices . As for making the world a better place I am part of a political movement that educates poeple on the drawbacks of the state (use of force , tax is theft) and what freedom is. As for making peoples lives better i do a lot of fund raising/charity work for motor neurone disease as well as caring for a family member who has this, just don't feel the need to make threads about it . The bloke I care for has one joy , his food , his favourite being sausages , I have talked him into LMC sauages and he likes them .




 
 
So paying someone to intentionally end the life of another just so you can eat its body (something you don't need to do to survive) is not cruel. If I kill my dog for no reason other then pleasure would I not have acted cruelly? Like I have said 1000 times now, Vegans will cause farm just by existing on the planet, but buy not eating animal products  you are having less of an impact on animals and the environment, so stop trying to point the finger at others, and look at yourself. there are over 60 billion land animals killed every year, what do you think they all eat? If you are so worried about rodents and insects then you should stop eating animals because most of the plants grown is fed to them.
 
All you do for charity (unless its an environmental charity) is meaningless if we have no planet to live on in years to come: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report
 
But let me guess you don't believe in all that right?


I believe the globe is warming , i do not believe in man made global warming until the science backs it up , with correct predictions and forecasts ( AL Gore had us underwater in 2011) , there is no solution, as a plant based eater you should be wanting a higher temperature as its much better than global cooling , as we would then need to use more fossil fuels to warm us all up. The way global warming is being sold to use is a giant hoax/carbon tax where nothing is fixed other than extra taxes and control of energy into cartels/monopolies/state owned.But I do understand confirmation bias and the ways our mind works and how it would be appealing for it to be correct in your world view . 
 
at the moment man made global warming is scientifically confirmed .
apart from all the scientists who disagree .
If you are classed as a denier for questioning the science , then this loses a lot of people because it becomes an ideological subject rather than a scientific one.
So rather than look at the actual data we fund the side that will put out papers showing that its real who skew the data with feedbacks and amplifiers which have been way off.
 
Does mowing down the amazon to feed cows seem right , absolutely not , but it shouldn't be rolled into the global warming/climate change scandal , it should be dealt with differently 
 
 
Also write a quick law/summary of what you would have passed in order to cure the world of animal cruelty/death that someone could easily follow/understand thats black and white , if you can do this then I might be with you. Please define 'unnecessary'. No ambiguity, that is open for interpretation , just a rule that can be followed.
 
All I do for charity is not meaningless , he would be dead without my help, I just don't make thread after thread about how much of a dogooder I am .


This thread isn't about me though, it's about the podcast I posted, which none of you watch, but all want to chimb in on the thread and make it about me. How about some of you actually watch/listen to what I post for once before posting in the thread, or that too much to ask?

Ive watched the video , it was exactly as I thought it would be .
 
In order for this to be corrected write a quick law/summary of what you would the state pass in order to cure the world of animal cruelty/death that someone could easily follow/understand thats black and white , if you can do this then we might get somewhere close to raising awareness and actually tackling the problem rather than groups substituting cruelty for virtue.
 
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On a lighter note it's national butchers week, so pop down to your local independent butcher and pick up your favourite cut of meat and enjoy knowing you are supporting the British countryside, jobs and the local community plus you get eat the tastiest food known to mankind 🍻
 
https://www.nationalbutchersweek.co.uk

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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/12 10:25:25 (permalink)
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On a lighter note it's national butchers week, so pop down to your local independent butcher and pick up your favourite cut of meat and enjoy knowing you are supporting the British countryside, jobs and the local community plus you get eat the tastiest food known to mankind 🍻
 
https://www.nationalbutchersweek.co.uk




Tastiest food known to man?
 
https://www.dailymail.co....ritish-Pie-Awards.html
 
Not sure about that buddy.
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I do a lot of push ups and sit ups. And I drink plenty of milk.

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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/12 10:25:58 (permalink)
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Ive watched the video , it was exactly as I thought it would be .
 
 



Sure you have.

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Ive watched the video , it was exactly as I thought it would be .
 
 



Sure you have.


I have BR , wouldn't comment without watching , its background noise while im working , just sits in the playlist and comes on when it comes on .
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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/12 13:50:52 (permalink)
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On a lighter note it's national butchers week, so pop down to your local independent butcher and pick up your favourite cut of meat and enjoy knowing you are supporting the British countryside, jobs and the local community plus you get eat the tastiest food known to mankind 🍻
 
https://www.nationalbutchersweek.co.uk




Tastiest food known to man?
 
https://www.dailymail.co....ritish-Pie-Awards.html
 
 
Not sure about that buddy.




FairPlay, now I like a pie just like the next man and not against trying any type, vegan, vegetarian or indeed meat (we're luck to have a local butcher who's a multiple award winner in their own right http://greensofpangbourne.com/pies/ )but no pie how ever great is going to beat a good old Sunday roast or indeed a simple BBQ'ed ribeye...
 
 steak...

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Re: The Dark Confessions of an Ex-Animal Farmer 2019/03/12 18:25:11 (permalink)
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On a lighter note it's national butchers week, so pop down to your local independent butcher and pick up your favourite cut of meat and enjoy knowing you are supporting the British countryside, jobs and the local community plus you get eat the tastiest food known to mankind 🍻
 
https://www.nationalbutchersweek.co.uk




Tastiest food known to man?
 
https://www.dailymail.co....ritish-Pie-Awards.html
 
 
Not sure about that buddy.




FairPlay, now I like a pie just like the next man and not against trying any type, vegan, vegetarian or indeed meat (we're luck to have a local butcher who's a multiple award winner in their own right http://greensofpangbourne.com/pies/ )but no pie how ever great is going to beat a good old Sunday roast or indeed a simple BBQ'ed ribeye...
 
 steak...


never understood ribeye lovers, fatty vut that usualy burns more cals cutting the fat off than eating t
 
Cant beat fillet
then topside or even slow cooked diced brisket , tastes just like fillet .
 
I am a fan of mycoprotien meats though , surprisingly good .
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