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2011/03/15 12:03:38 (permalink)

The Queen visiting Ireland.

I don't get all the uproar about the Queen's proposed visit to Ireland.....and I'm Irish!!! Surely this is a good thing for us, as it would boost tourism and strengthen relations with our closest geographical neighbours!!! All these people going on about the past baffle me....surely the future is more important!!
 
On the flip side then you had the Patricks Day celebrations in Hammersmith at the weekend, Irish flags and parading everywhere, which was welcomed by the local people of the community. I cant imagine the reverse being the case.
 
Surely in this day and age such an attitude by those voicing their opposition to the visit is slightly outdated.

Lets start buildin' some hurtin' bombs 
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:08:38 (permalink)
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    Surely in this day and age such an attitude by those voicing their opposition to the visit is slightly outdated.


    Yes, you're right.

    I don't get the uproar either. Some people just don't have much else going on in their lives and they like to kick up a fuss about stuff like this.

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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:15:33 (permalink)
    What's the uproar mate? Haven't really heard anything about it on the news over here what with all the sh't going down in Libya, Japan, etc


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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:18:43 (permalink)
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    What's the uproar mate? Haven't really heard anything about it on the news over here what with all the sh't going down in Libya, Japan, etc


    People moaning that because of the past, and the Northern Ireland situation she shouldn't be visiting!

    Lets start buildin' some hurtin' bombs 
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:32:40 (permalink)
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    Quagmire
    Surely in this day and age such an attitude by those voicing their opposition to the visit is slightly outdated.


    Yes, you're right.

    I don't get the uproar either. Some people just don't have much else going on in their lives and they like to kick up a fuss about stuff like this.


    Untill the north remains part of britian then she'll never be welcomed by a good percentage of the country with me included in that. Untill teh quenn comes out and apollgise for the all teh wrongs that her family and her goverment have done in ireland then she'll never be welcome.  This is the same queen that In the aftermath of the murder of 14 inocent people on Bloody Sunday, The Parachute Regiment was rushed up to Buckingham Palace and decorated by the Queen. I know some would say this is living in the past but it's not really when it's teh same person. Theres alot of people still have a bitter taste in they're mouth when she is mentioned. I think its abit to early to be a visit from the queen/king of britain while teh north still isnt sorted out. Come back about 30 year's after the country has be united then we will look at it.
     
     
    post edited by keyser soez 2010 - 2011/03/15 12:46:19

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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:37:08 (permalink)
    well said keyser!
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:45:33 (permalink)
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    Quagmire
    Surely in this day and age such an attitude by those voicing their opposition to the visit is slightly outdated.


    Yes, you're right.

    I don't get the uproar either. Some people just don't have much else going on in their lives and they like to kick up a fuss about stuff like this.


    Untill the north remains part of britian then she'll never be welcomed by a good percentage of the country with me included in that. Untill teh quenn comes out and apollgise for the all teh wrongs that her family and her goverment have done in ireland then she'll never be welcome.  This is the same queen that In the aftermath of the murder of 14 people on Bloody Sunday, The Parachute Regiment was rushed up to Buckingham Palace and decorated by the Queen. I know some would say this is living in the past but it's not really when it's teh same person. Theres alot of people still have a bitter taste in they're mouth when she is mentioned. I think its abit to early to be a visit from the queen/king of britain while teh north still isnt sorted out. Come back about 30 year's after the country has be united then we will look at it.
     
     


    Yet Jerry Adams and Martin McGuinnes where accepting Westminster wages/ Expences ( in which both of them racked up nearly 500k)..and have been awarded many times  depite being fully documented as being IRA council members....whats you point?..if the people of NI can accept them sitting in a devolved Parliment...I think its gonna be piss easy for the Rep (where its mostly stated they dont give much care for the North)..to have the Queen over for a couple of days or what ever.
     
    Also....did you know that WInston Chruchill offered the Rep of Ire Northern Ireland in return to help them in the Second WW effort..but they declined?..so ya had chances..yas didnt take them.
     
    Ya can sling mud all day..if ya dont draw a line in history at some point..we are doomed to make the some history over and over.
     
    Ohh and you wont get a united Ireland now in 30yrs...not even close...the Rep literally cant afford the North...also..if their was a United Ireland..teh Unioinist would have a stronger position within a United Ireland...so it wouldnt actually benifit many people...certianly the poeple that live in NI after the year the REP has had.

    post edited by cu3ed - 2011/03/15 12:49:39
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:47:23 (permalink)
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:54:07 (permalink)
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    Quagmire
    Surely in this day and age such an attitude by those voicing their opposition to the visit is slightly outdated.


    Yes, you're right.

    I don't get the uproar either. Some people just don't have much else going on in their lives and they like to kick up a fuss about stuff like this.


    Untill the north remains part of britian then she'll never be welcomed by a good percentage of the country with me included in that. Untill teh quenn comes out and apollgise for the all teh wrongs that her family and her goverment have done in ireland then she'll never be welcome.  This is the same queen that In the aftermath of the murder of 14 people on Bloody Sunday, The Parachute Regiment was rushed up to Buckingham Palace and decorated by the Queen. I know some would say this is living in the past but it's not really when it's teh same person. Theres alot of people still have a bitter taste in they're mouth when she is mentioned. I think its abit to early to be a visit from the queen/king of britain while teh north still isnt sorted out. Come back about 30 year's after the country has be united then we will look at it.
     
     


    Yet Jerry Adams and Martin McGuinnes where accepting Westminster wages/ Expences ( in which both of them racked up nearly 500k)..and have been awarded many times  depite being fully documented as being IRA council members....whats you point?..if the people of NI can accept them sitting in a devolved Parliment...I think its gonna be piss easy for the Rep (where its mostly stated they dont give much care for the North)..to have the Queen over for a couple of days or what ever.
     
    Also....did you know that WInston Chruchill offered the Rep of Ire Northern Ireland in return to help them in the Second WW effort..but they declined?..so ya had chances..yas didnt take them.
     
    Ya can sling mud all day..if ya dont draw a line in history at some point..we are doomed to make the some history over and over.
     
    Ohh and you wont get a united Ireland now in 30yrs...not even close...the Rep literally cant afford the North...also..if their was a United Ireland..teh Unioinist would have a stronger position within a United Ireland...so it wouldnt actually benifit many people...certianly the poeple that live in NI after the year the REP has had.

     
    I did know about churhill offer but if you look hard enough you'll agree it was'nt a concrete offer.
     
    How owuld teh unionist have a stronger postion  when they are a minority on this island

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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:54:07 (permalink)
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    Also....did you know that WInston Chruchill offered the Rep of Ire Northern Ireland in return to help them in the Second WW effort..but they declined?

    That's interesting, I didn't know that. Just looked it up and seems it's common knowledge. Guess I need to read up on history a bit more


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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:54:46 (permalink)
    The whole time I lived in Dublin my overriding impression was that most Irish didn't give the slightest feck about NI, they where all far too busy getting rich.
     
    I can't see NI ever uniting with the republic.  The last thing ROI wan't is a bunch of separatist kicking off.  Just imagine the stink if people in Northern Ireland start having to pay ROI prices for things

      




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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:56:13 (permalink)
    She is welcome as far as I am concerned. Couldnt care less either way really.

    I am happy with a 26 county republic (we couldnt afford the north as above).
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:58:03 (permalink)
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    How owuld teh unionist have a stronger postion  when they are a minority on this island


    Bombs are a quite effective tool for getting your own way when your a minority.  Just ask Jerry Adams.

      




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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 12:59:27 (permalink)
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    The whole time I lived in Dublin my overriding impression was that most Irish didn't give the slightest feck about NI, they where all far too busy getting rich.
     
    I can't see NI ever uniting with the republic.  The last thing ROI wan't is a bunch of separatist kicking off.  Just imagine the stink if people in Northern Ireland start having to pay ROI prices for things


    Thast **** all..we dont mind any of that..good being alot more expensive...petrol being higer...its the stinking utter diguisting fact that they only serve 25ml per shot with their spirits that would cause uproar!
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 13:02:10 (permalink)
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    cu3ed

    Also....did you know that WInston Chruchill offered the Rep of Ire Northern Ireland in return to help them in the Second WW effort..but they declined?

    That's interesting, I didn't know that. Just looked it up and seems it's common knowledge. Guess I need to read up on history a bit more


    What made me check was the King Speech l;eading up to the war....
     
    Key...its was an iron clad deal..help us..you get a united Ireland.....thats why Churchill could NEVER visit NI aftrer the war or duting or any other time..everyone here would have been gunning for him after that.
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 13:04:41 (permalink)
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    She is welcome as far as I am concerned. Couldnt care less either way really.

    I am happy with a 26 county republic (we couldnt afford the north as above).


    You see that's where you lot in the south of the country go wrong, it isnt about money never has been and never will. And your point about her being welcome , we'll i expect this of you lot because you's had your wee cosy live's down below without any form of discrimanation,murder by the hand's of teh british.
     
    You no next to nothing about what it's like being a 2nd class citizen in your own country so i expect these comments of people like you.

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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 13:09:35 (permalink)
    I haven't heard any uproar, but then again I didn't even know she was coming.  Shows how much I pay attention.
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 13:10:21 (permalink)
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    most Irish didn't give the slightest feck about NI


    I can vouch for this.

    As I said before in a similar thread, we are only on this planet for an incredibly short time and we should all strive to make it as pain-free an experience for ourselves and those around us as possible; clinging to the past with some hopeless revenge fantasy is not conducive to this. Life is too short.

    "Be adequate"
     
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 13:12:09 (permalink)
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    most Irish didn't give the slightest feck about NI 



    Most that give a f**k live in Scotland and ain't got an Irish bone in their body.

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -   George Orwell
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    Re:The Queen visiting Ireland. 2011/03/15 13:14:00 (permalink)
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    john_cappa

    She is welcome as far as I am concerned. Couldnt care less either way really.

    I am happy with a 26 county republic (we couldnt afford the north as above).


    You see that's where you lot in the south of the country go wrong, it isnt about money never has been and never will. And your point about her being welcome , we'll i expect this of you lot because you's had your wee cosy live's down below without any form of discrimanation,murder by the hand's of teh british.
     
    You no next to nothing about what it's like being a 2nd class citizen in your own country so i expect these comments of people like you.


    A fair point "us lot down south" and "people like me" dont know anything about the atrocities that both sides inflicted on one another.

    Either way. It is time to move on. And people are moving on. Slowly but surely.



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