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2006/07/19 10:52:52 (permalink)
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The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods

Just noticed that Flora are doing an O3 enriched spread. 03s seem to be being added to all sorts of things. IMO this can only be a good thing. Anyone else agree.

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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/19 11:17:21 (permalink)
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    Yes - provided that they are properly manufactured, and have relevant minor ingredients & vitamins to ensure they can be used.

    I'd rather it was seed LNA than EPA/DHA though, which varies between products.

    I don't know which spread you have there Paul, but the empty tub on my desk has an o6:o3 if about 12:1, not ideal at all. I think they've done a new one now, so you're probably talking about that one.
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/19 12:10:12 (permalink)
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    yeah the flora one had about 1:4 of O3 to O6 I think, can check tub at lunch. Still not ideal but an improvement.

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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/19 15:45:50 (permalink)
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    I think it's a cynical "jumping on the O3 bandwagon" by food manufacturers. They add a token amount of O3 and trumpet how wonderfully O3-enriched their product is (and no doubt bump the price up as well).

    Flora's Omega-3 O6:O3 ratio of 4:1 is not much use for lowering the ~15:1 O6:O3 ratio in the average diet of people in developed countries.
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/19 15:57:29 (permalink)
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    As cynical as say Vogel's Flax bread???

    Don't get me wrong Nige, I am with you on this to an extent - firstly, if they all take off massively, it will kind of eat into our marketplace!!; secondly, I don't see them actually being too interested in the benefit given, more the claim of benefit the can put forward; but I'm just happy to see more people becoming more aware of the potential benefits.

    Let's be honest, the sort of marketing budgets the big players have is only a good thing for the national education that the government should really be taking care of..!
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/19 16:20:24 (permalink)
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    Does Vogel's soya & linseed bread not have much linseed in it, then? How does it compare to Burgen?
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/19 16:37:13 (permalink)
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    It's 7% flax according to their site, so 0.07*0.45*0.8=0.0252 ~ 2.5% o3. No idea how it compares to Burgen I'm afraid!
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/19 19:09:46 (permalink)
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    Looks like it's similar to Burgen, then. See http://www.burgen.com.au/burgen_html/products_soylin.htm This has 7% total fat and 4.6% pufas, of which 2.2% are omega-3 (I think that "mg" must be a mis-print).

    If Vogel's has ~2.5% omega-3 and only 4.9% total fat content, there's every chance that it also has a ~1:1 ratio of O6:O3.
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/20 14:16:20 (permalink)
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    Vogels got ~1g sat fat, and some will have to be monos, so poss closer to a 2:1 3:6? Anyways, I might actually give it a bash - I finally saw it in the supermarket the other day and it did look pretty tasty!
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/20 20:32:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Nigeepoo

    I think it's a cynical "jumping on the O3 bandwagon" by food manufacturers. They add a token amount of O3 and trumpet how wonderfully O3-enriched their product is (and no doubt bump the price up as well).

    Flora's Omega-3 O6:O3 ratio of 4:1 is not much use for lowering the ~15:1 O6:O3 ratio in the average diet of people in developed countries.
    You sort of beat me to it. It's like this omega 3 milk, juice and yoghurts as well; regadless of o6 levels, the o3 amounts are so pathetically small. I often pick up the new products, knowing that looking will result in the confirmation of just how little is actually in there.

    Even these kids' o3 capsules are pathetic - 53mg per cap? No prob, just have 20 a day then, kids!
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/20 20:59:39 (permalink)
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    If the milk/yoghurt was any good in the first place it would already be an omega 3 source - they're just putting back in what their poor farming methods have removed.

    Most of the stuff is token amounts to make people think it's healthy, like adding vitamins to sunny delight.
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/20 21:10:16 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: dannyboy

    If the milk/yoghurt was any good in the first place it would already be an omega 3 source - they're just putting back in what their poor farming methods have removed.

    Most of the stuff is token amounts to make people think it's healthy, like adding vitamins to sunny delight.
    I remember a Sunny D ad going on about having more vitamin C than of carrots.

    Carrots 7mg vitamin C per 100g compared to an orange at 53mg per 100g, bear in mind also how much liquid an orange is composed of.
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/22 01:10:33 (permalink)
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    the omega 3 milk is the most cynical of them all.. there is but a tiny trace of o3 added to the milk... completely pointless IMO.
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/22 18:44:22 (permalink)
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    Off-topic, but didn't the Potato Council claim that a chips were healthy because a potato contained more vitamin C than an apple?
    Yeah, right! As if apples were ever a good source of vitamin C. I wonder what happens to the vitamin C in a potato when it's peeled, sliced and deep-fried? And all that omega-6 pufa coating it....... Oy!
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/24 09:51:08 (permalink)
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    There's a Mcain advert on bill boards at the moment showing potatoes in the ground going to peeled spuds, going to "chipped" spuds, going to chips, with some all natural strapline. Makes me laugh, as if that is genuinely all they do, what sort of an idiot would pay through the nose for spuds just 'cos they've been peeled and cut...

    I really love potato skin deep fried but haven't had them in ages because of the deep frying consequences - putting off having them again til I get some coconut oil in, could be pretty darn good!
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/24 14:31:47 (permalink)
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    Tried that Vogel's bread yet, Tony?
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/24 14:52:02 (permalink)
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    No - haven't been shopping since!! Should be off the supermarket tonight, so will pick some up. My mum & dad came to see my new house yesterday and brought up a big load of organic lamb & rump steak, so some steak sandwiches this week were on the cards anyway May as well do the bread properly!!
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/24 15:22:48 (permalink)
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    where do you buy vogels ?, saw burgens crannberry bread in tesco
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/24 15:24:52 (permalink)
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    They sell vogel's in Sainsbury in Hedge End (or they used to, don't know if you still work over this way mate).

    Burgen's is far nicer, I find the Vogel stuff wuite heavy/stodgy.
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    RE: The addition of O3s in "Normal" foods 2006/07/24 15:34:07 (permalink)
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    no mate work in basingstoke these days, but where I live is near a large sainsburys.

    Where do you get Burgens as in tesco they just had the cranberry one which didnt really tickle my fancy

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