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2008/05/21 13:57:51 (permalink)
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The age suggestion? 21?

I'm considering getting some sort of testosterone booster tablets, but in researching it it recommends the minimum age to take is 21? Is this set in stone? I'm 18 coming on 19 in august. But I've been working out since i was 14-16. I'm 6" 80kg.. Is this a bad idea for me?

Looking at this I thought back to when people said about training when i was 14.. told me to wait, but I also remember if done correctly it's fine, is this the same princable?

Is there any direction you guys would point me in?.. My gfs best friends brother takes steroids, but injects into his bum, I don't really want the illegal (higher risk?) as some people say side of it, but considering trying a tablet form?

Any advice would be much appreciated! thankyou

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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 14:15:32 (permalink)
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    i am by no means an expert but there are some sups out there that can be used by 18 years olds and older by the companys suggestions most pro hormones and designer steroids are for 21 and over i think test booster like mass fx and hyperdrol are ok for 18 year olds have a look around.

    iv justy started my first cycle of cissus drol and im 6 days in and there is a small difference but i havent gained and strength but ive been havin late late nights as im up to my balls in college work so i put it down to rest!

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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 14:17:32 (permalink)
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    I'll have a look mate, mass fx? You recommend any sites to buy from etc?
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 14:19:26 (permalink)
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    I wouldnt bother, you probably wont get much from mass fx etc...
    Your natural test levels are at their peak right now so theres not much to maximise if you see what i mean.
    Whats your goals? Are you looking to put on mass at the moment?
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 15:02:22 (permalink)
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    As above, regardless of your age I would recommend you try natural alternatives first. My choice would be Cissus-Drol, from www.extremesupplements.co.uk , as I think it has the most potential to add mass. MassFX MS is also a good product and worth checking out.
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 15:18:00 (permalink)
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    Normally agree with everything you say Firestorm but in this case i have to disagree.

    I wouldnt recommend C-Drol due the reason it contains 6-bromo which albeit indirectly affects oestrogen and therefore test levels.

    I would stear clear from anything that will cause a change in your hormone levels and spend it on food or a good quality weight gainer.
    If you spend the money on weight gain rather than one of these supps and get an extra 600cals per day in due to this, i would guess that you'll put on more mass than if you eat the same as before and take a test booster.

    edited: spelling
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 15:46:32 (permalink)
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    Hmm.. I want to gain weight but lean mass.. really, I tried weight gain, put on a stone 12 - 13, but it mainly went on my stomach, so I want to keep lifting heavy weights but reduce my BF % down to under 15.. its 20 atm. Most people I know though who take tablets/inject are really lean..
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 15:58:46 (permalink)
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    Did you know them before they started AAS, were they lean then.
    Theres many ways you can put on lean mass. Increasing your food intake a little at a time to get an idea of how much you need to eat before you start putting on fat.
    Or you could increase your cardio along with your food. That way you'll put on lean mass and you'll get the health benefits of increased cardio.
    Sorry to say but its not as easy as it sounds, inject or take tabs and get big n lean.
    If you concentrate on your training and diet for another few years and then start experimenting with AAS i can guarantee you'll get better results.
    Are you training for performance or aestetics?
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 16:00:46 (permalink)
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    If your serious about the training and want to improve, post your diet up in the diet section and get some advice on how you can alter it to put on lean mass.
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 17:01:18 (permalink)
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    As far as I'm aware the chance of 6bromo causing any kind of gyno is limited, and I was also of the opinion it wouldn't affect the endrocrine system etc, meaning it would be fine for an 18 year old to take. Perhaps Adil can clear this up.
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 17:38:40 (permalink)
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    Whats your diet like? Surely this is the place for size gains in someone your age.....

    Up your calories and GROW, then when you are old and fat think about using hormones!!
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 17:53:58 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Xsjado

    I'm considering getting some sort of testosterone booster tablets, but in researching it it recommends the minimum age to take is 21? Is this set in stone? I'm 18 coming on 19 in august. But I've been working out since i was 14-16. I'm 6" 80kg.. Is this a bad idea for me?


    You are very light for your height for someone who's been training for 4 years (since you were 14 right? Or is it 2 years - since you were 16?). I have two pieces of advice for you.

    My first piece of advice would be to get your diet sorted - go to the diet forum on this board and post your daily diet, and tell them that your goals are to lean bulk.

    My second piece of advice would be to sort your routine out. You could post your current routine in the Routines forum on this board. Or, just take on something like Frankie NYs 3 day split. Keep it simple though, choose a standard 3 or 4 day split.

    DS's and other steroids really aren't a magic bean, and at your age you are risking MORE than the average male in terms of your long term health. You really don't need anything yet my friend, I promise you. Get your diet and routine in order and you've got another 20lbs of steroid-free gains in you over the next 2-3 years - MINIMUM!

    Please, put the Test Boosters, Designer Steroids idea to the back of your mind for just a little longer and do what I've suggested. They'll all still be there in 2-3years time.

    Think about it,
    Jing


    ORIGINAL: firest0rm

    As far as I'm aware the chance of 6bromo causing any kind of gyno is limited, and I was also of the opinion it wouldn't affect the endrocrine system etc, meaning it would be fine for an 18 year old to take. Perhaps Adil can clear this up.


    You mean other than by blocking Aromatase from converting Test to Estrogen? Causing the Pituitary to increase levels of LH to get Test to go up to try and correct the imbalance?

    He's at an age where his endocrine system is still learning about its 'Set Points' for Test, LH, Estrogen, Aldosterone, Cortisol etc. If you fiddle with the balance now, you run the risk of altering your set points DOWN for the rest of your life! Maybe the risk is tiny. Who knows though? And, what's 2-3 years waiting to reduce that risk?
    post edited by JingPuerh - 2008/05/21 17:58:32

    fah_gedda_boudit: "At the end of the day I don't think it really matters what it tastes like. If the liquid stuff is what you can get, well ger'it down yer neck & cowboy up"
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 18:01:43 (permalink)
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    Thanks for all your advice guys, I think i'm going to get my diet sorted for definate.. I've got a good 4 day split atm I'm going to stick by. I've been training since i was 16.. I don't seem to grow much in mass which is my problem, but I'd say im pretty strong for my size. Anyway here's a link to my diet post.. feel free to take a look if you guys like :) but thanks! It's nice getting some good advice from you guys.
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 18:03:58 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Xsjado

    Thanks for all your advice guys, I think i'm going to get my diet sorted for definate.. I've got a good 4 day split atm I'm going to stick by. I've been training since i was 16.. I don't seem to grow much in mass which is my problem, but I'd say im pretty strong for my size. Anyway here's a link to my diet post.. feel free to take a look if you guys like :) but thanks! It's nice getting some good advice from you guys.


    He meant to say HERE is the link to his diet plan!

    fah_gedda_boudit: "At the end of the day I don't think it really matters what it tastes like. If the liquid stuff is what you can get, well ger'it down yer neck & cowboy up"
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 18:33:28 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: firest0rm

    As far as I'm aware the chance of 6bromo causing any kind of gyno is limited, and I was also of the opinion it wouldn't affect the endrocrine system etc, meaning it would be fine for an 18 year old to take. Perhaps Adil can clear this up.


    look forward to response
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 18:47:17 (permalink)
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    Fair enough then, if 6bromo shouldn't be used by those under 21 then the members of this board should stop recommending it
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 20:08:31 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: firest0rm

    Fair enough then, if 6bromo shouldn't be used by those under 21 then the members of this board should stop recommending it


    On the other hand..
    I guess if someone's determined to do a cycle then better 6bromo or ATD than D-Bol or Test-E I guess?
    It's hard to call isn't it?
    How old were you when you did your first cycle FS?
    Would you have waited knowing what you know now, or gone on sooner?

    J

    fah_gedda_boudit: "At the end of the day I don't think it really matters what it tastes like. If the liquid stuff is what you can get, well ger'it down yer neck & cowboy up"
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 23:23:39 (permalink)
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    You're 18. Eat big, train big and sleep well

    Growth will follow......
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/21 23:27:23 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: JingPuerh


    ORIGINAL: firest0rm


    You mean other than by blocking Aromatase from converting Test to Estrogen? Causing the Pituitary to increase levels of LH to get Test to go up to try and correct the imbalance?

    He's at an age where his endocrine system is still learning about its 'Set Points' for Test, LH, Estrogen, Aldosterone, Cortisol etc. If you fiddle with the balance now, you run the risk of altering your set points DOWN for the rest of your life! Maybe the risk is tiny. Who knows though? And, what's 2-3 years waiting to reduce that risk?



    got me worried as im only 19 dam it
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    RE: The age suggestion? 21? 2008/05/22 00:05:51 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: JingPuerh

    He's at an age where his endocrine system is still learning about its 'Set Points' for Test, LH, Estrogen, Aldosterone, Cortisol etc. If you fiddle with the balance now, you run the risk of altering your set points DOWN for the rest of your life! Maybe the risk is tiny. Who knows though? And, what's 2-3 years waiting to reduce that risk?



    Hmm I've never heard of this before. Is this evidence based on what should happen or what does happen? Has there been any studies?

    "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true."
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