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2011/04/02 10:26:40 (permalink)
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The squat.

I've been doing a spot of reading about the squat and the different ways and reasons to do it.

On one hand there are various people supporting knees as forward as hips back with thighs parrellel to the floor. Reasons being less stress on the knee joint, more stress on the quads.

On the other people saying deep squats with knees not past toes.

Which do you do and why?

Which is right and wrong?

Is there a wrong way (other than with improper form i.e. Back rounding)?



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    TheThumper
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    Re:The squat. 2011/04/02 13:55:40 (permalink)
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    It'll always depend on the goal.
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    Re:The squat. 2011/04/02 18:20:21 (permalink)
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    id say keep your knees fairly still, theyll move a bit but not huge amounts and go as low as possible



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    Re:The squat. 2011/04/03 02:51:55 (permalink)
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    I say keep your back as straight as you can and try not to let your bum push out too far back because you put all the strain on your lower back. Squats are to train your legs so nice and controlled moves, as low as possible, head up, back straight. 
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    Re:The squat. 2011/04/03 21:54:51 (permalink)
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    it all depends upon your reason for doing them and your mechanical capabilities

    "If you cant explain it simply, you dont understand it well enough" Albert Einstein
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    Re:The squat. 2011/04/03 22:19:51 (permalink)
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    A typical squat should involve a neutral spine, eccentric taken at least past parallel, knees tracking but not going past the toes (which should be positioned either facing forward or slightly outwards).  When viewed from the side the shins and spine should be at roughly the same angle in the lengthened (bottom) position.  Hope this clears up any issues.
     
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    Re:The squat. 2011/04/03 22:56:36 (permalink)
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    Ive always done my squats as selector said. But have found people that say, moving the toes past the knees is better for quad activation. I always thought, and have read moving toes past knees put more stress on the actual knee joint.

    What I can gather is that knees past toes is an Olympic way to do them.

    The way I to them is more of a bodybuilding way.

    So does "my" way mean it gains more mass and the knees past toes way gain more strength? How come?

    I go deep but not ass to grass as it feels like a tendon is rubbing over my patella at the very bottom of the movement.

    Just interested in the subject and people's views.
    post edited by Bchi - 2011/04/03 22:57:59
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    Re:The squat. 2011/04/04 00:16:45 (permalink)
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    'Olympic' style squats don't necessarily involve the knee traveling past the toe, this will often be dependent on femur and tib/fib length. The heel also affects this. Obviously the goal is strength and distribution of the load, maximal recruitment, multiple joint flexion/extension; you're not trying to isolate say quads like a bodybuilder might look to do.
    post edited by TheThumper - 2011/04/04 00:19:32
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