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2015/01/01 20:39:23 (permalink)
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Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41...

Have trained serious and hard for last 5 years (but always trained since age of 17) and feel I need a bit of a push over the plateau I've reached. I am 5'10 and about 200 lbs. want to add some size to legs, definition is ok. Upper body I need to lose some chest BF and abs BF too.

Really just looking for some guidance on a safe..ish way to make lean gains. I was looking at alpha labs tren but seems to get some criticism on these forums

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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/01 20:52:11 (permalink)
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I've been trying to figure out what's in alpha labs tren with no success. Seems it's a "secret recipe". I wouldn't willingly take a hormonal product without knowing what's in it.
 
 
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/01 20:57:21 (permalink)
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Thanks. I know there's a risk with any PH but I am hoping that there's a wealth of experience and recommendations on here.😀
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/02 14:04:01 (permalink)
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M-Dien!! 
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/02 16:16:53 (permalink)
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Just had a look and the 2 uk distributors don't seem to have in stock!
Have you had experience using M Dien then?
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/02 17:59:16 (permalink)
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Yes used it and I was very impressed. I smashed through PBs and added some muscle.  I am waiting for the stock to arrive so I can get some more for my spring/summer slim down.
 
I have read several logs that say you can still increase strength while on a calorie deficit.
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/02 18:48:31 (permalink)
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Out of interest what else did you use...pct and liver milk?
Bear in mind I've not used anything before so excuse the question! (Although have done a fair bit of reading on the matter)
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 09:48:12 (permalink)
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ajb73
Out of interest what else did you use...pct and liver milk?
Bear in mind I've not used anything before so excuse the question! (Although have done a fair bit of reading on the matter)

Pct 5-6 week nolva 20.20.20.10.10.10 should suffice.
Not heard of liver milk but if looking for a liver supp then TUDCA or NAC
 
I will add that i wouldn't  recommend  mdien  for a first cycle. It can be high on sides and thats unpleasant enough without it being unchartered territory. Maybe dianodrol for first cycle?
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 09:51:10 (permalink)
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Superdrol or M1T could be other options, or if you want something more mild, halo or epi, or just bite the bullet and run 500mg test for 10-12 weeks.

If you love something let it go,if it comes back to you it's yours,if it doesn't it never was.
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 10:30:06 (permalink)
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ajb73
Just had a look and the 2 uk distributors don't seem to have in stock!
Have you had experience using M Dien then?



One pot found on a stock take , first come first served on the site.
We should be getting more this month sometime
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 11:07:47 (permalink)
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I've been trying to figure out what's in alpha labs tren with no success. Seems it's a "secret recipe". I wouldn't willingly take a hormonal product without knowing what's in it.
 
 


It's methyltrienelone (sp?) mate, methylated tren.
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 11:16:29 (permalink)
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I doubt that, I think mtren is a controlled substance, not something that can be sold OTC, and even if it wasn't it would be the only OTC mtren product on the market which is a bit odd, as something new comes out you immediately see clones following.
 
What they say officially is that it's a methylated DHT derivative. They could be talking out of their ass, but mtren (or any steroid in the tren family) is not a DHT derivative. I would bet it's some strong anabolic in the M1T/msten/mithras family, or a blend of several of them. Either way I'm not taking it without them telling me what it is.
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 11:35:10 (permalink)
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I doubt that, I think mtren is a controlled substance, not something that can be sold OTC, and even if it wasn't it would be the only OTC mtren product on the market which is a bit odd, as something new comes out you immediately see clones following.
 
What they say officially is that it's a methylated DHT derivative. They could be talking out of their ass, but mtren (or any steroid in the tren family) is not a DHT derivative. I would bet it's some strong anabolic in the M1T/msten/mithras family, or a blend of several of them. Either way I'm not taking it without them telling me what it is.


You are talking about alpha pharma aren't you? They also sell tren hex which i don't believe is supposed to available for human consumption. I also believe that item is dosed at 1mg/tab. I know of no other product that is effective at that dosing other than methyltrienelone or maybe cheque drops?
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 11:38:23 (permalink)
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Just checked on alpha's official website and they describe them as:

Tren Tabs

Methyl Trenbolone Tablets 1mg

Indications

Tren Tabs are indicated in treatment of severe muscular dystrophy and severe unrelated muscular catabolism as well as acute growth failure.

Presentation

Each carton contains 5 strips of 10 tablets each.
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 11:40:22 (permalink)
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I'm talking about Alpha Labs. I think this is the product the OP was referring to:
http://www.cardiffsportsnutrition.co.uk/alpha-labs-tren-bomb-60-capsules
 
Alpha pharma is a underground steroid lab, you won't find their products OTC anywhere. And tren hex is very much illegal (without a prescription anyway), in fact I don't think they even make it any more.
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 11:50:29 (permalink)
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I'm talking about Alpha Labs. I think this is the product the OP was referring to:
http://www.cardiffsportsnutrition.co.uk/alpha-labs-tren-bomb-60-capsules
 
Alpha pharma is a underground steroid lab, you won't find their products OTC anywhere. And tren hex is very much illegal (without a prescription anyway), in fact I don't think they even make it any more.


Lol that explains the confusion, never heard of alpha labs before.....
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 11:55:05 (permalink)
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Out of interest what else did you use...pct and liver milk?
Bear in mind I've not used anything before so excuse the question! (Although have done a fair bit of reading on the matter)

Pct 5-6 week nolva 20.20.20.10.10.10 should suffice.
Not heard of liver milk but if looking for a liver supp then TUDCA or NAC
 
I will add that i wouldn't  recommend  mdien  for a first cycle. It can be high on sides and thats unpleasant enough without it being unchartered territory. Maybe dianodrol for first cycle?

Thanks Dave, you're correct in assuming I don't want to go for a very potent PH for 1st cycle as don't know my tolerance levels as yet. At the end of the day I am 41 so am never going to compete I just want to get over my plateau and look better overall in a subtle way if that makes sense!, 😀
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 11:56:55 (permalink)
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Uriel
I'm talking about Alpha Labs. I think this is the product the OP was referring to:
http://www.cardiffsportsnutrition.co.uk/alpha-labs-tren-bomb-60-capsules
 
Alpha pharma is a underground steroid lab, you won't find their products OTC anywhere. And tren hex is very much illegal (without a prescription anyway), in fact I don't think they even make it any more.

100% right mate that was where I was looking when I opened the initial post.
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 15:46:21 (permalink)
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Just had a look and the 2 uk distributors don't seem to have in stock!
Have you had experience using M Dien then?



One pot found on a stock take , first come first served on the site.
We should be getting more this month sometime
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Grabbed it! :-)
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Re: Thinking of a 1st pro hormone cycle at 41... 2015/01/03 17:15:55 (permalink)
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or just bite the bullet and run 500mg test for 10-12 weeks.



^^^This.

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