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2007/06/18 19:53:43 (permalink)
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Timing carbs around training?

Greetings.

On my med/low carb days i often have to plan my training early in the morning as those are the only points in the day i can realistically train after taking in carbs; i.e carbs as part of breakfast, train 1h or so later.

On a low day there are no carbs until my evening meal following breakfast, meaning i often train early.

Would there be a problem in having just a protein-based breakfast and having carbs later in the day to aid training, or would this disrupt anything or have any negative effects?

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    AUTIGER
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/18 20:18:24 (permalink)
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    i find it wise even on a low carb day to try and get a small amount of carbs into each meal, but have your major carb meal an hour before training.
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/18 21:20:27 (permalink)
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    Have summin like scrambled eggs, bacon, mushrooms and onion = protein and fat and some carbs from veg
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/18 22:15:17 (permalink)
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    Are you doing steady state cardio? ? ?

    If so, then protein and healthy fats at meal 1 are fine in my opinion.
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 07:49:00 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: OoOGazOoO

    Are you doing steady state cardio? ? ?

    If so, then protein and healthy fats at meal 1 are fine in my opinion.


    assuming he wants to stay in ketosis

    if not, use carbs at breakfast and simply stay in a calorie deficit to lose weight
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 11:18:55 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: ToxicToffee


    ORIGINAL: OoOGazOoO

    Are you doing steady state cardio? ? ?

    If so, then protein and healthy fats at meal 1 are fine in my opinion.


    assuming he wants to stay in ketosis

    if not, use carbs at breakfast and simply stay in a calorie deficit to lose weight


    You've lost me a bit there TT - am i disrupting ketosis if i'm taking in carbs or not at breakfast? (my knowledge isn't great in that area).

    Gaz if it does pose any problems towards fat loss then yes i will be doing steady cardio on low-carb days.

    Currently it goes something like;

    Wake > Pro/Carb/Fat meal > Train > PWO

    Although if ok to do it'll change to

    Wake > Cardio > Pro/Fat Meal > Pro/Carb/Fat Meal > Train > PWO

    Cheers

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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 14:30:20 (permalink)
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    If you have carbs at breakfast then it is more than possible to kick yourself out of ketosis, if that is your goal.

    Are you trying to get into and stay in ketosis? ? ?
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 14:56:32 (permalink)
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    I'm not running any sort of ketogenic diet Gaz - just carb cycling for now.
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 15:01:09 (permalink)
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    Well then you can have your protein and carbs post cardio.
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 15:03:56 (permalink)
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    Thats not what i'm after though Gaz.

    Ideally i want to be able to substitute the carbs i have post-cardio and have a protein/fat based meal, and shift the carbs to later in the day to coincide with my training instead of having to fuel it with just protein/fats.

    See where i'm coming from?
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 17:02:47 (permalink)
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    Yes, i do, but if ketosis isnt your aim then why do you want to do it? ? ?

    There's no problem in doing it, in my opinion, protein and healthy fats after steady state cardio is fine.

    However, could you not just reduce the carbs near training and then add some to meal 1? ? ?
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 19:02:28 (permalink)
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    I don't have any carbs fuelling training on low carb days Gaz - thats the thing.

    Brekkie is 8 egg whites 1 yolk, 50g oats, 50g whey.

    Could i then shift the oats or some of the oats to say meal 2 or 3 prior to training?
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 19:27:45 (permalink)
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    you are baffling yourself

    get in a deficit

    see what happens

    go from there
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 19:32:56 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Ak_88

    I don't have any carbs fuelling training on low carb days Gaz - thats the thing.

    Brekkie is 8 egg whites 1 yolk, 50g oats, 50g whey.

    Could i then shift the oats or some of the oats to say meal 2 or 3 prior to training?


    yes, u don't need carbs there if u don't want.

    u don't have to have preWO either really, have some fat, spoonful of pb for example for NRG.
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 19:34:33 (permalink)
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    what is NRG?

    how does peanut butter influence that?
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 19:46:34 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: ToxicToffee

    what is NRG?

    how does peanut butter influence that?


    not sure if your serious with the first question but just in case NRG is energy!!!

    Cals = energy

    PB cal dense therefore lots of energy, I realise carb is best 4 performance but suggesting alternative if he didn't want to include carbs.
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 19:47:48 (permalink)
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    how will fats aid weight training work outs?
    fats cant fuel the brains actovities can they?
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 19:51:03 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: ToxicToffee

    how will fats aid weight training work outs?
    fats cant fuel the brains actovities can they?


    As I mentioned above, cals = energy

    Brain activities? Fcuk knows
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 19:52:01 (permalink)
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    so you are stating that fats can power anaerobic activity efficiently?
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    RE: Timing carbs around training? 2007/06/19 19:54:12 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: ToxicToffee

    so you are stating that fats can power anaerobic activity efficiently?


    R U saying cals don't give u energy?
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