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2015/01/14 11:33:23 (permalink)
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Tips on fudging a blood test

Guys I've heard it mentioned a few places but are there any sure ways to drop your test levels prior to a blood test. I have low test but I'm not sure how low. Is there a way of lowering it if the test is in the morning?

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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 11:42:18 (permalink)
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Got any steroids? Pop some dbol the night before or something, that'll lower your testosterone nicely. Or run like 10mg of anavar a day for a week prior.
 
If no AAS available, use a birth control pill. It's full of estrogen, and it'll tank your testosterone production nicely.
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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 11:42:18 (permalink)
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Why are you wanting to do this, how do you know your test is low?

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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 11:43:45 (permalink)
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Why are you wanting to do this

Obviously to get TRT. As with most people who want it, his test is probably low but not low enough to get a prescription since the NHS will consider as little as 300ng/dl "normal". Tank it down to 100ng and there's not much for them to argue with.
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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 11:54:30 (permalink)
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Do you just wake up.and decide your test is low then?
If he wants to take ass it's far easier to self administer than fudge tests to get 1ml of sus a fortnight, won't give any significant gains. And is going to save him about £4.00 per fortnight?
If he takes additional he's going to have to explain why his results don't concur with normal trt dosage when his bloods are taken, which they will be and with great regularity when his levels are all over the place.
Just seen the employer testing him bit..... Yeah ok, don't do what's not illegal in your own time or we will sack you. Errrr ok

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Re: 2015/01/14 11:56:38 (permalink)
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More to the story Johnny, I've read his other posts so it all makes sense as to why he wants to get on trt
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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 11:59:14 (permalink)
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It's low but not low enough for them to start trt at the last check. Which is frustrating as low test is hard to Live with. Look guys I'm not asking for a bashing. The nhs are so unwilling to help sometimes you got to give yourself a helping hand. Ok so maybe its not the best idea but I'm just asking. Isn't that the point of mt

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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 12:08:27 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby redwing 2015/01/14 12:36:47
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No judging here, can't stand the medical community's double standards and indifference to issues that affect men's quality of life. If a woman complains about anything even remotely related to her sex hormones they even bat an eye before prescribing her estrogens. If she doesn't like any particular one they'll prescribe another, I know women who bitched and were prescribed fancy birth controll pills with dieuretics because they didn't like the water weight they'd put on. But if you want some testosterone you're just a druggie looking for a fix and it's bad for you and they'll make your life so difficult you'll probably just give it up.
 
I have no moral objection to conning people like that.
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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 12:17:03 (permalink)
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Ok I get your point but what do you want from NHS prescribed trt?
Prescribed trt isn't going to give you a decent gear cycle to make gains from they are looking to get your level to a normal range, not 2 grams of test a week to get hench.
If you need trt then they will prescribe it, below a level if it's not deemed necessary and yeah the NHS idea of necessity is lower than what we think is low.
If you need to fudge a test to get 250mg of sus a fortnight Im a bit lost.
If you want to use trt as a cover for testing for testosterone in work tests so you can run gear then I get that but you will create probs for yourself come blood test for your trt time. You won't show levels consistent with your prescribed dosage.
It's not just straight forward in my opinion and experience, or maybe it is... Crack on

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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 12:19:08 (permalink)
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Got any steroids? Pop some dbol the night before or something, that'll lower your testosterone nicely. Or run like 10mg of anavar a day for a week prior.
 
If no AAS available, use a birth control pill. It's full of estrogen, and it'll tank your testosterone production nicely.


Yes, something like Dianabol is suitable or anything with a short halflife. 
 
Partyboy gave a good answer to this question a couple of weeks ago. 
 
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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 12:19:10 (permalink)
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Uriel, I agree with you totally mate, but I'm just saying things aren't always black and white as we'd like them to be.
I'd 'like' your posts if I could.

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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 13:05:16 (permalink)
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Just to clarify this is nothing to do with wanting to do a cycle or use steroids it's about simply fixing a hormonal problem that's hard to live with that's all. In relation to my previous posts well ive got thr answer to that and do not intend to do anything apart from feel normal again. Thanks for the replies.

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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 13:31:26 (permalink)
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you go for it Mate .
 
Ive raised my test and feel much better for it. Its about time the NHS recognised male problems in this area a bit more. 



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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 13:58:04 (permalink)
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Just to clarify this is nothing to do with wanting to do a cycle or use steroids it's about simply fixing a hormonal problem that's hard to live with that's all. In relation to my previous posts well ive got thr answer to that and do not intend to do anything apart from feel normal again. Thanks for the replies.


Understood, its just that G.Ps can be pretty obstructive and drag their feet when men enquire about TRT.
 
It is a good idea to use anything at your disposal to add weight to your cause. 

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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 13:58:58 (permalink)
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you go for it Mate .
 
Ive raised my test and feel much better for it. Its about time the NHS recognised male problems in this area a bit more. 


Redwing: did you get TRT via G.P or have gone on your own route on this ? 

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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/14 20:54:02 (permalink)
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you go for it Mate .
 
Ive raised my test and feel much better for it. Its about time the NHS recognised male problems in this area a bit more. 


Redwing: did you get TRT via G.P or have gone on your own route on this ? 




Hello Mate.
 
I just went my own way. Its a bit more than TRT so its a bit different but its still a low dose of Test.
 
I just have 1ml of Sust 250 each week. Nothing added just stick to that and its been great. Its not expensive and I know what my GP is like. She has you out the door as soon as you walk in so I knew it would be pointless.
 
 
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Re: Tips on fudging a blood test 2015/01/15 08:53:42 (permalink)
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Cool: You should see some nice gains from that. I like Sustanon it was my first cycle. 
Not sure why I haven`t used it recently. 
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Re: 2015/01/15 09:05:45 (permalink)
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Never used sust but I wanna try it during my cruise/bridge

If you wanna go onto trt won't you get regular blood test to check you levels? Or do they prescribe it and leave you alone?
All very well going on trt but no use if they'll bloodtest you every few months and get inconsistent readings
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Re: 2015/01/16 12:54:01 (permalink)
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To add my 2 cents and I speak from experience.
 
Have you had tests before confirming low/border line low testosterone previously? If the answer is no then get some private tests that don’t go on your record and check this out before screwing with your HTPA and obtaining a ‘fudged’ result. If your test is really normal and you want TRT for gear cycles then you’ve got it all wrong and I would advise you just get on with things yourself. Do you have all the symptoms?
 
If you’ve had a borderline test already then in my personal opinion fudging the test is not just advised it’s absolutely a necessity.  They will not even entertain the thought of TRT without a level of less than 10 (ref range is 9-30 depending on which lab is used) and even then it is a struggle to get TRT. They will likely check everything under the sun before prescribing.
 
I personally did fudge one of my blood tests. My first test came in borderline. For my referral and my second set of bloods I did the following…
 
  • Ate a low calorie diet for a few weeks prior to the blood draw
  • Drank a fair bit of booze a week before
  • Limited sleep to a few hours a night the week before and didn’t sleep at all the night before the test.
  • Exercised chronically the week before 
This was enough to drop my test to rock bottom. My repeat test few weeks later came back slightly higher but was still under the normal range.
 
Is does all depend on your endo though but there are few out there that really know what they’re doing with male hormones.
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Re: 2015/01/16 13:20:52 (permalink)
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Never used sust but I wanna try it during my cruise/bridge

If you wanna go onto trt won't you get regular blood test to check you levels? Or do they prescribe it and leave you alone?
All very well going on trt but no use if they'll bloodtest you every few months and get inconsistent readings


Chris I've pointed this out much earlier in the thread, or at least I thought I had.
My own experience is they will test you a couple of times to establish an average or baseline.
Then begin treatment, with whatever you and they come to agreement on, gel, test inj etc.
Then you will be tested again after a period of time to reassess your level, then adjust your dosage, frequency etc accordingly (if necessary) then again after a few weeks of this new level you will be tested again..and on.
Once settled and endo is happy with all blood test results you will be tested every 6 mths for bloods and have your prostate PSA checked with a lower frequency.
They won't just look at test level they are looking at plenty of other levels, prolactin, oestrogen, red blood count.... Plenty of other stuff which is beyond my memory and understanding.
If you think you can just add a cycle in between bloods then yeah you can but be aware it's not straight forward if you don't want raised eyebrows lots of additional tests etc.
It's doable of course and short acting esters, orals etc become your friend but they way people who don't have prescribed trt talk about it makes me fcuking lol.
That said every endo will work slightly differently and have their own testing and protocols they like to work to

If you want to get 250ml once a fortnight etc, I can assure you there are easier and cheaper ways to do it.
post edited by johnny bravo - 2015/01/16 13:32:41

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