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2005/07/29 15:21:45 (permalink)
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Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape

Hello everyone. My cousin has highly recommended this site so I thought I would try it Although my query is not bodybuilding related I still want to know a good program for strength so as to increase my chances of selection for graduate careers in the military/government.

I have about 2 more years of university left. I have been training for 8 months and have lost 25kg but now wish to get strong, and, fit. Ready for selection; any selection. You all probably have a very good understanding of strength and fitness training and so may be able to point me in the right direction.

I'm wanting to get "in shape" for potential selection into defence. Not sure what area, but, I guess being in the best possible shape wont hurt.

How should I do this?

- Cycle bulking and cutting stages. ie: bulk for 12 weeks, and then get fit for 12 weeks? or just stick to a solid program for years.

I was thinking of Frankies program or Big Al's with some jogging in the morning and two days per week boxing. Is that too much or will it go nicely?

Which one would you suggest for this? Frankies or Big Al's or another?

I probably need lots of chins and dips and press ups but I want some good strength gains - having that marine body also wont hurt :)

Any idea what the Royal Marines or the SAS do?

Any good programs or guides out there?

Thanks very much for any responses. I know how to bulk and cut but not how to get in peak physical shape - fighting fit. Any guidance will be a big help.

Cheers,

How can I set it up? Any links to anywhere?
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    Airborne Warrior
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/29 16:29:14 (permalink)
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    If you want to join one of the elite Regiments such as the Marines or Paras you shouldn't be thinking along the lines of bodybuilding at all! Cardio and alot of balls will get you through training. Circuit training such as pressups, situps ect is all that is required for upper body fitness. Try carrying 20 to 30lb of extra muscle across Dartmoor or Otterburn for 30 miles with a 80lb rucksack and 10lb rifle and you'll soon wish that muscle would go away!

    As for 22 SAS you need at least 3 years experience in a regular unit (preferably infantry) before you can have a crack at selection. Walter Mitty types need not apply.
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/29 23:39:40 (permalink)
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    the crossfit style of training is what u need

    www.crossfit.com
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 02:48:29 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: PikeKing

    the crossfit style of training is what u need

    What a load of crap! You need to get out and do a bit of running to get fit. It isn't rocket science! Do more then what you did the week before And you'll be progressing! The 'crossfit style' has never seen anyone pass 'P Company' or 'Marine Training' to my knowledge!
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 12:27:41 (permalink)
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    Run. Skinny guys can run long distances. Big guys get ****ed up ankles.
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 12:50:42 (permalink)
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    thanks for the respectful reply airborne, well **** you

    the guy obviously wanted to add some muscle, this would be a far better way for him to do it than the typical training routine posted on this forum
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 13:26:37 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: PikeKing

    thanks for the respectful reply airborne, well fcuk you

    No thanks i'm married.

    the guy obviously wanted to add some muscle, this would be a far better way for him to do it than the typical training routine posted on this forum

    Why would it?

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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 16:28:04 (permalink)
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    I agree with skinny and AW. Forget about looking good/BB, think about being functionally capable for your goals.

    Bear in mind your ultimate role would be to get from A to B quickly with a shed load of kit and then perform your task fresh as a daisy.

    Also the heavier you are the more likely you will have an injury and either kicked off the course or back squadded. You will end up running with boots and heavy loads so functional strength/endurance is an assett, big muscles are a disadvantage.

    Upper body strength required, means, getting over walls, climbing ropes, carrying poles and stretchers, that's all.

    If you are worried about impressing your peers don't. It soon transpires who is mentally tough, physically fit and therefore able to complement a team.

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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 21:10:24 (permalink)
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    @If your considering going into either one of our countrys elite fighting units like the paras or the marines then the one thing i could recommend you doing is cardio and lots of. No matter how hard you train in civilian street, this still wont be enough for what they throw at you. Concentrate on body weight exercises like push ups pull ups and situps, forget bbuilding.

    "Oh!! Thats your Boyfriend, i thought you were tallking your little brother for a walk.."
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 21:34:05 (permalink)
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    forget BBing as said above, but marines and paras are different. Paras do alot more running (so i'm told) marines do a bit more strength training. Im sure AW will be able to give the best advice, look at his phisique (sp) and his fitness also (so he says ).

    You need a good balance of both.
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 21:37:44 (permalink)
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    balance of both meaning strength / fitness. didnt mean half BB style half fitness style
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 21:42:45 (permalink)
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    marines do alot of running and strength training- this varys from circut training to rope climbing. also alot of swimming is involved in there training ( hypoxic ) not sure on the spelling of that.

    "Oh!! Thats your Boyfriend, i thought you were tallking your little brother for a walk.."
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 21:47:07 (permalink)
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    a good friend of mine has been in the Marines for years and it never ceases to amaze me how fat he is , he must be 20% body fat . Dont get me wrong he is very fit , but I just cant get over the amount of weight he carries. from what he's told me the big thing in the marines is running with weight , he is always complaining that they want you to run with stupid amounts of weight , he blames this on his knee and ankle probs.

    No biggie like, there are a lot worse things for you than using steroids, I mean I probably shouldn't have been smoking crack or getting into bar fights at your age TBH  - drab4

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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 21:49:33 (permalink)
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    Another big thing in the marines is drinking, once you pass out of training a few people slack off training depending on what job you do..

    "Oh!! Thats your Boyfriend, i thought you were tallking your little brother for a walk.."
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 21:57:23 (permalink)
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    Hmmm.. wonder why me and him get on so well. Anyone out there heard of 'naked bar'

    No biggie like, there are a lot worse things for you than using steroids, I mean I probably shouldn't have been smoking crack or getting into bar fights at your age TBH  - drab4

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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/30 22:34:23 (permalink)
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    Clean up your attitude Pike. And why did you post the same thing four times?

    Let it sink.... I can swim.
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/31 00:12:16 (permalink)
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    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/Army_Entrance_Test/m_631227/tm.htm
    http://www.mfat.co.uk/
    http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/index.php

    a) Listen to Airborne Warrior - he's been there and got the t-shirt
    b) Run, Tab/Yomb, Calisthenics (BW excercises)
    c) Join you uni OTC if it has one
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/31 00:52:56 (permalink)
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    Listen to Airborne Warrior - he's been there and got the t-shirt

    I'm still there mate and i've got loafds of T-shirts!
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/31 02:58:11 (permalink)
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    As far as the marines go, do some bloody research of your own! They tell you these things on the website, and they expect to have read every last bit of it when you go for your selection interviews!

    Achieving a 15 on the bleep test will get you a tick in the "Excellent" box as far as fitness goes.

    60 press ups in 1 minute, 85 situps in 1 minute, and 18 chin-ups in 1 minute in a stage test format will get the same "excellent" as far as the strength tests go.

    So if you're planning on going into the marines or similar I suggest you should be able to achieve the above^^ before you even go for selection if you're planning on having it easier than most.
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    RE: Training for the military/ special forces - peak shape 2005/07/31 19:53:55 (permalink)
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    silly narbie those the above scores which you have pointed out are the maximums in which a potential recruit can achieve, When on My prmc lads where passing selection by achieving lesser scores. The team selecting the potential recruits are looking for more things in a recruit than just fitness although this does help..

    "Oh!! Thats your Boyfriend, i thought you were tallking your little brother for a walk.."
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