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2015/01/31 11:29:14 (permalink)
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Training twice a day= double the speed of gains?

Is it possible that if a person trains twice a day and takes 4000 plus calories daily, the speed of his gains are likely to be double as compared to the person who trains once a day?
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 11:51:48 (permalink)
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Highly unlikely i would say unless you are a genetic god with immense recovery ability.
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 12:02:38 (permalink)
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You'll be best training 24 hours a day srs

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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 12:07:34 (permalink)
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Not double but it may increase gains (especially strength) depending on how you do it.

It's not worth the extra effort unless you have limitless time, and it may actually end up being counter productive.

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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 12:09:01 (permalink)
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makaveli1971 1996
You'll be best training 24 hours a day srs



Can't escape nature there, sleeping for some time is must ;)
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 12:30:02 (permalink)
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you should check this out http://www.t-nation.com/workouts/american-sniper-workout
 
apparently worked out twice a day to put something like 35-40 lbs lean mass for the role. Used a shed load of custom made supplements as support though.
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 12:30:47 (permalink)
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makaveli1971 1996
You'll be best training 24 hours a day srs


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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 20:16:58 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Rob Reynolds 2015/01/31 20:30:21
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I think it would work. Years ago I tried an experiment out on myself - I did lat pulldowns and seated row every time I went to the gym - 4 session per week for 12 weeks. What happened? The body parts I trained once a week grew as much as you'd expect and my back grew f*cking insanely. If you told someone you were training your back four times a week they'd tell you that you were 'overtraining'.
 
I'd say try it and see; I doubt it'd do you any harm and I'm sure it'd actually increase your gains. 
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 20:33:06 (permalink)
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Rest is just as important as training. In fact I regard it as being more important than training and diet. So much so that my routine almost solely consists of rest and relaxation. 
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 20:33:42 (permalink)
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I think it would work. Years ago I tried an experiment out on myself - I did lat pulldowns and seated row every time I went to the gym - 4 session per week for 12 weeks. What happened? The body parts I trained once a week grew as much as you'd expect and my back grew f*cking insanely. If you told someone you were training your back four times a week they'd tell you that you were 'overtraining'.
 
I'd say try it and see; I doubt it'd do you any harm and I'm sure it'd actually increase your gains. 




Thanks for a positive advice.
 
Went to the gym twice today. First session was 48 sets, second session was just 18 sets. The energy for the second session wasn't as great as the first one. The difference was obvious, but again some people say more fatigue or more pain means more growth.
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 20:37:25 (permalink)
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I think it would work. Years ago I tried an experiment out on myself - I did lat pulldowns and seated row every time I went to the gym - 4 session per week for 12 weeks. What happened? The body parts I trained once a week grew as much as you'd expect and my back grew f*cking insanely. If you told someone you were training your back four times a week they'd tell you that you were 'overtraining'.
 
I'd say try it and see; I doubt it'd do you any harm and I'm sure it'd actually increase your gains. 


Overtraining from performing seated rows and lat pull down 4 times per week would be very difficult to achieve.

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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 22:19:30 (permalink)
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My gut feeling is that you would soon burn out. It's not just physical recovery here but also recovery of the nervous system, not to mention joints etc.
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/01/31 23:24:09 (permalink)
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Is it possible that if a person trains twice a day and takes 4000 plus calories daily, the speed of his gains are likely to be double as compared to the person who trains once a day?
of twice is good , isn't 3 times better and what about 4-10 times per week? MAYBE the best approach is to have a 6 day split and hit each body part every.6 days
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/02/01 01:55:33 (permalink)
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I think it would work. Years ago I tried an experiment out on myself - I did lat pulldowns and seated row every time I went to the gym - 4 session per week for 12 weeks. What happened? The body parts I trained once a week grew as much as you'd expect and my back grew f*cking insanely. If you told someone you were training your back four times a week they'd tell you that you were 'overtraining'.
 
I'd say try it and see; I doubt it'd do you any harm and I'm sure it'd actually increase your gains. 


Overtraining from performing seated rows and lat pull down 4 times per week would be very difficult to achieve.


Exactly my point, but if you posted a routine on here which included four back 'days' per week you'd get told you're doing too many back workouts/overtraining your back.

Overtraining is bullsh*t in my opinion. Unless you're training 5 hours a day, 7 days a week, eating 500 calories a day and sleeping two hours a night yout body will adapt just fine.
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/02/01 07:04:28 (permalink)
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No but if someone posted they are training all their body parts 4 times per week, which would more likely be the case, then over time it'd probably become to much stress for some to recover from, which if continued and continued could lead to a state of overtraining.

For 99% of people overtraining will never happen, but over reaching sure will for most at some point, and training each muscle 4 times per week, the average guy would be over reaching pretty quickly more than likely.

If you're someone that has a stress free life, no job, no worries sleep like a baby every night and have a great diet, then sure you'll be able to recover from a lot more training than someone who has the opposite in their life.

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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/02/01 08:16:12 (permalink)
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I'd say try it and see; I doubt it'd do you any harm and I'm sure it'd actually increase your gains.

 
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/02/01 09:15:10 (permalink)
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4x a week would be fine.

I have friend's who train legs and overhead movements 5 times per week with no issue. They do movements which put a lot more stress through the joints than your average bodybuilding routine as well. And yes they are natural.

Correct programming is what's needed.

Personally I do full body 3x week. I could deffinately get away with 4x but I prefer the time off to do other things.

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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/02/01 09:36:48 (permalink)
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Ive done all that few year ago I tried to do it all and lost 2 stone I looked ill
 
Every 1 different tho
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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/02/01 10:00:30 (permalink)
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4x a week would be fine.

I have friend's who train legs and overhead movements 5 times per week with no issue. They do movements which put a lot more stress through the joints than your average bodybuilding routine as well. And yes they are natural.

Correct programming is what's needed.

Personally I do full body 3x week. I could deffinately get away with 4x but I prefer the time off to do other things.


With the correct programming sure anything can work, but the OP won't be using that and will more be thinking he can train each muscle 4 times per week with various exercises and volume, kinda like a bro split but x4

It simply won't work for most, hence why most stick to just 1-2 times per week for each muscle with decent volume and exercise selection each session.

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Re: Training twice a day= double the speed of gains? 2015/02/01 10:40:37 (permalink)
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I increased my bench press by 25kgs in 3 months by training it 3 times a week 15-20 sets each session. Granted I was eating anything and everything I came across... And that was strength gains bit muscle gain.

After the SUC I'm going to do similar with squats. Probably smolov which is squatting 4 times a week.

Volume works but you need to have rest and nutrition in place

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