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2009/07/18 12:51:12 (permalink)

Training while working/not working?

Slightly off topic, but I was wondering, how many of you here who train are currently out of work?
 
I was thinking the up-side to not having a job would be you've got more freedom to go at your training regime/diet better.
 
The reason I ask is, I work weird shift patterns sometimes, which completely knock my eating times and work-out out of whack soetimes, aswell as my vital beauty sleep! 
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    All4n
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 13:44:44 (permalink)
    I do better when i'm in employment. More money and kept busy. Having too much freedom results in too much overthinking. Also to easy to overeat when bored. Too much thinking/analysing of training/diet results in less gains. More fat storage as well. Best gains are made when busy and eating etc is random ime.
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 13:50:37 (permalink)
    really? you think you gain better than if literally all you had to do was train, eat and sleep?
    if money wasn't an issue and i didnt have to work, im certain i would be a lot bigger, leaner and stronger than i am now.

    calm down, its life, mate, its only a game
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 13:59:01 (permalink)
    In periods of unemployment I struggle in a big way.

    No job = no routine = no structured diet* = consequent half-arsed approach to training because it's not backed up by decent food.

    * the lack of diet is often attributed to a lack of money too.

    Being borderline OCD, I need routine. Even when I am working, weekends are usually a struggle for eating/training or both. God I need a job!!
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 19:09:10 (permalink)
    a nice easy going job helps with diet i think as you get up and eat early.

    a really taxing job hinders as you struggle to get enough food down and motivate youself to train when you get home

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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 19:25:01 (permalink)
    Def better to do nothing else but eat, sleep and train, ie a professional athlete!
     
    However to be truly unemployed brings it's on stress and is obviously not a good thing!

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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 19:55:34 (permalink)
    Im unemployed and am training twice per day and loving it.  I used to work in a very full on job, long hours and 6 days per week, training is defo better now.

    Although i have run out of things to clean in my flat - will be decorating next then probably get a job out of boredom!
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 21:09:34 (permalink)
    With my situation, I work 12 hour shifts - 3 nights and 2 days. It's fuqqed' up, and drains alot of energy and motivation when I'm shattered from work.
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 21:51:20 (permalink)
    im finding it hard to eat now that im not working ,i cant seem to finish some of my meals for some reason ,and All4n  hit the nail on the head by saying too much overthinking, im doing alot of this these days , then couldnt be fukd making something to eat
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 23:02:20 (permalink)
    All4n

    I do better when i'm in employment. More money and kept busy. Having too much freedom results in too much overthinking. Also to easy to overeat when bored. Too much thinking/analysing of training/diet results in less gains. More fat storage as well. Best gains are made when busy and eating etc is random ime.


    LMAO, what about the stress of your jb leading to cortisol increases then?
     
    If you don't make the best gains of your life when you have nothing else to do other than eat/sleep/train then you are doing something wrong.
     
    I work from home these days earning nicely with little stress (own secure business) and my best gains have come this past year and a half.
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 23:06:29 (permalink)
    The best compromise is 'well' paid doorwork, everything about the job increases testosterone.  Can train, eat and rest well.  All the figures below were attained with that job, with my current job, I'll be lucky if I ever get there again!

    Squat: 363kg

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    @ (currently 114kg)

    ...soon to be obliterated!
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 23:10:33 (permalink)
    I've had 6 weeks off work, diets been rediculous. have trained but its been at random times of the day... felt more tired too not doing much...

    Think it depends on YOUR work tho. i'm up early for breakfast at my place, get to eat at my desk not just at breaks so its a nice constant shuveling. then train straight after work. usually still wide awake as my jobs hardly a hard one and i often sleep in my lunch time... fits perfect for me...

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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 23:10:37 (permalink)
    Currently out of work and making the best gains i've had for a while. Obviously not great for other aspects of your life though.
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/18 23:42:35 (permalink)
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    All4n

    I do better when i'm in employment. More money and kept busy. Having too much freedom results in too much overthinking. Also to easy to overeat when bored. Too much thinking/analysing of training/diet results in less gains. More fat storage as well. Best gains are made when busy and eating etc is random ime.


    LMAO, what about the stress of your jb leading to cortisol increases then?
     
    If you don't make the best gains of your life when you have nothing else to do other than eat/sleep/train then you are doing something wrong.
     
    I work from home these days earning nicely with little stress (own secure business) and my best gains have come this past year and a half.


    Not every job is stressful you know.

    Working from home and not having a job are two totally different things. Having no job and nothing to fill time with besides eating, training, sleeping is a sh!te boring lifestyle leading to overthinking and probably overtraining (via cardio if no routine change). Training only takes up a few hours of the day, all that's left is to eat inbetween. Boring.

    Being busy, active and not over analysing = great gains. 

    Being overly structured and repetative = poor gains ime.
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/19 11:10:26 (permalink)
    Tell that to those who have no job (bar the odd shoot) then.

    Why does not having a job lead to overthinking and overtraining? Makes no sense- you dont' spend your day when you aren't working thinking and worrying about training. You do other things, spend time with children, read, gardenning etc.

    Or perhaps you are on of those who thinks about nothing but BBing, yearning to become a pro...
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/19 11:27:55 (permalink)
    I found long term unemployement (more than a few weeks) wasnt quite the training Nirvana Id imagined.

    After all, if training hard you can only train so long, so I ended up over training.

    The lack of structure to the day meant I was often bored and ate when I shouldnt.

    For me a happy medium is working, but not as hard as i do now (70 hrs a week)

    My username has nothing to do with my religious beliefs.....
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/19 11:38:54 (permalink)
    Ive had the best gains by far in periods of not working, one time i had 12 weeks out of work i didnt drink just ate loads of good food and trained like a machine, now work is getting busyer im not training as well.
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/19 12:27:52 (permalink)
    Blue_Lagoon, who's the bird in your profile pic there? If that's your woman, then your one damn lucky sod indeed!
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/19 13:22:55 (permalink)
    Hapiface

    Tell that to those who have no job (bar the odd shoot) then.

    Why does not having a job lead to overthinking and overtraining? Makes no sense- you dont' spend your day when you aren't working thinking and worrying about training. You do other things, spend time with children, read, gardenning etc.

    Or perhaps you are on of those who thinks about nothing but BBing, yearning to become a pro...


    Lol no mate i can assure you i have zero aspirations of becoming a pro, no where near. If i had a lot of hobbies/tasks/people to see during the day then i wouldn't end up overtraining/over analysing. My main, actually really only, hobby is training. It's not the only thing i do, but without something else to keep me occupied during the day i end up doing exactly what reborn did as per the quote below. I honestly find when i'm busy and forget about training besides getting meals in and not missing sessions everything goes a lotbetter. I've actually found when i've eaten a bit more randomly and been busy during the day i feel stronger in the gym and if dieting get leaner much easier. I'm sure not everyone is like this, maybe it's just my overthinking habits, but it's what works for me. When i'm kept busy i find goals are reached easier and i put this down to just getting on with things and avoiding any OCD nature that i have surfacing and setting my progress in the wrong direction.

    Reborn

    I found long term unemployement (more than a few weeks) wasnt quite the training Nirvana Id imagined.

    After all, if training hard you can only train so long, so I ended up over training.

    The lack of structure to the day meant I was often bored and ate when I shouldnt.

    For me a happy medium is working, but not as hard as i do now (70 hrs a week)


    Exactly what happens with me except i overtrained via cardio as routine didn't change all that much. Eating out of boredom occured quite frequently.
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    Re:Training while working/not working? 2009/07/19 14:17:43 (permalink)
    I got you now,
    Nice post.
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