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NeilShaw
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2007/06/14 11:20:58 (permalink)
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Training without changing diet?

I've recently started training but havent changed my diet much. I've cut out most of the junk I used to eat, don't have sugar in my hot drinks and have given up chocolate and snacks etc.

My goals are to lose a few inches from my waist and build some lean muscle so I have a more athletic look. I'm not interested in bulking much just adding some size and definition, expecailly to my upper body. If I contiue to eat a fairly healthy diet but don't really pack in the protein etc will I still see some reasonable gains?

The main reason for not improving my diet is time. I know its generally thought of as a poor excuse but I struggle to have anyspare time with work and my house (DIY) taking up alot of my time.

I'm also going to Centre Parcs in September so would like to improve my overall look a little before I go. Do you think 2.5 Months is enough time to see some gains, even small ones?

Sorry for the n00b questions. I've been reading alot of the Journal posts and beginner guides but there's alot to take in!


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    cleg
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    RE: Training without changing diet? 2007/06/14 13:02:47 (permalink)
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    Hi mate.If you have aspirations of improving your physique to any great degree you have to get your diet fairly decent.You have to eat a decent amount of protein to build muscle (evenly throughout the day,not two or three massive amounts or you wont be able to digest it properly).At a bare minimum you should have 4 meals a day which include 40 gs of protein and some carbs.6 or 7 is better.A meal can be a can of tuna,a banana and a glass of milk,for example.Check out Meal Replacement Packs (MRPs) for convenience if time is an issue.If you say you're eating cleanly at the moment but not with much protein,you'll possibly lose bodyfat (improve definition) but if you have no muscle there in the first place you'll have nothing to define.2 and a half months is enough time to make noticable gains IMO,especially for a beginner,but you really must pay attention to what you eat.
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    RE: Training without changing diet? 2007/06/14 13:09:06 (permalink)
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    you will make gains without changing your diet they will be limited if size is what you are after.

    however without a decent diet you may not get the progress you are after and then motivation will decline and then you'll probably lose interest.
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    RE: Training without changing diet? 2007/06/14 16:38:27 (permalink)
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    Diet is equally, if not more important than the training. You can make reasonable inital improvements without getting your diet right, but it wont last and you will end up wasting your time. I really think that "not having the time" is a piss poor excuse, especially for the reasons you give. The diet is a struggle but it has to become a way of life. We all have to make sacrifices to have the body we want. Many of us have a house in need of serious DIY, a wife, kids etc. Some even work shifts. I work in a restricted zone and can't even take protein drinks in to work - but I work around it because I want a BB body.
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    RE: Training without changing diet? 2007/06/15 10:02:07 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Zulu3

    Diet is equally, if not more important than the training. You can make reasonable inital improvements without getting your diet right, but it wont last and you will end up wasting your time. I really think that "not having the time" is a piss poor excuse, especially for the reasons you give. The diet is a struggle but it has to become a way of life. We all have to make sacrifices to have the body we want. Many of us have a house in need of serious DIY, a wife, kids etc. Some even work shifts. I work in a restricted zone and can't even take protein drinks in to work - but I work around it because I want a BB body.


    I understand why you say its a p*** poor excuse but for the next few weeks I wont have a working kitchen as we are having some work done. Besides the sink and fridge its empty! Luckily my gf's my is keeping us fed until we're sorted but I can't ask her to make special meals for me. I will start sorting my diet out as soon as I can but for the next few weeks its got to be as simple as possible.

    I'm going to continue to train as and when I can then when things are sorted get the diet and routine planned out.

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    RE: Training without changing diet? 2007/06/15 10:23:22 (permalink)
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    A few weeks wont make a massive difference if you plan on training say for 20yrs+.

    So start training, sort diet out on paper, wait till kitchen is sorted and then start implementing it in a few weeks.

    I just redid my bathroom myself and worked 13hr days for a week, needless to say diet suffered a little, but 1 week is just 1 week.

    Paul
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