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2015/03/06 20:31:47 (permalink)
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Trestolone / Trestobol

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17β-hydroxy-7α-methylestr-4-en-3-one 

This reads up really well as a wet compound that can be run for 12 weeks (according to celtic labs)

Also seen as Brawn's Trestobol.

Something to run alongside Halo with an AI?

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    Re: Trestolone / Trestobol 2015/03/07 09:32:45 (permalink)
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    Have you been hiding under a rock bro? Trest is all they ever talk around here nowadays lol, PH guys have been using it as their replacement for good old testosterone.
     
    I'm not sold on it at all, it's test without the DHT and with more estrogen. Those two traits remind me of dbol more than anything.
     
    It's non toxic so in theory you can use it as long as you like. AI would be strongly recommended but to me seems kinda moot to pick something very estrogenic and then throw an AI, why not just pick something less estrogenic to begin with? Like, say, testosterone?
     
    Don't mean to sound like I'm pushing injectables and hating on designers but it does seem like people are going to great lengths and picking inferior drugs just to avoid the needle at all costs.
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    Re: Trestolone / Trestobol 2015/03/07 10:03:51 (permalink)
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    Ah right... the bottled Trest is the same as the transdermal Tr3st we see

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    Re: Trestolone / Trestobol 2015/03/07 19:15:53 (permalink)
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    Transdermal is just much more bioavailable (less needed for the same effect).
     
    Trest is not 17-alpha alkylated so most of it gets destroyed during digestion (it's 7-alpha alkylated which helps in that regard but not nearly as much).
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    Re: Trestolone / Trestobol 2015/03/07 19:23:04 (permalink)
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    Uriel
    Transdermal is just much more bioavailable (less needed for the same effect).
     
    Trest is not 17-alpha alkylated so most of it gets destroyed during digestion (it's 7-alpha alkylated which helps in that regard but not nearly as much).


    Yep - that makes sense.

    Will be running 8 weeks Halo at 75mg and 100mg soon. Enjoyed it last time at 75mg for 6 weeks. I like the dry style, but wondering what might be beneficial to stack.

    I suspect the non methylated trens are also limited (new and old, old being better by reports).

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    Re: Trestolone / Trestobol 2015/03/08 04:05:55 (permalink)
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    Trest was dry for me, but then I've never had estro issues. Great product. Injectables>TD>Oral.
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    Re: Trestolone / Trestobol 2015/03/10 00:17:56 (permalink)
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    Why is trest being defined as 'wet' as if that's a matter of fact?

    So it aromatises, so what? Does that guarantee water retention? If it did indeed cause some (which is highly debateable, as well as individual), would that not be controllable to a large extent through diet and hydration?
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    Re: Trestolone / Trestobol 2015/03/10 07:01:14 (permalink)
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    ^yes. Or a low dose AI.
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    Re: Trestolone / Trestobol 2015/03/10 07:52:59 (permalink)
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    So it aromatises, so what? Does that guarantee water retention?

    Kinda yeah.
     
    I think it's unlikely you can avoid any water retention from diet alone, but even if you can then using something non estrogenic you'd be a lot drier still. I know guys have gotten ready for contest before on dbol but if they'd used winstrol I'm sure they'd look even better.
     
    Using an AI doesn't make the steroid not estrogenic, if the steroid wasn't estrogenic you would have no need for the AI.
     
    Anyways the problem isn't simply that it aromatises, it's that it seems to do so (or convert into a stronger estrogen than) testosterone itself. Whitch is a shot in the foot if you ask me for a drug meant to replace testosterone.
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    Re: Trestolone / Trestobol 2015/03/10 07:57:15 (permalink)
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    User and dose dependant.
    Used oral and TD with zero issues.
    Yes, it converts to 7methyl-estrogen, but from the reviews, feel the estro sides are no greater than running test. 
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    Re: Trestolone / Trestobol 2015/03/10 12:54:01 (permalink)
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    I'm finding trest really dry also, no apparent water at all
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