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2018/07/03 21:56:50 (permalink)
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UFC 226 Miocic v Cormier

What a card!

Really looking forward to this. So many potential bangers.

Saki v Roundtree.
Lewis v Ngannou.
Holloway v Ortega.
Then the main event - Stiopic v DC.

I love Stipe but I actually think DC might have his number due to his wrestling. As for the other fights, I really have no ****ing clue.
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    Re: UFC 226 Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/03 23:02:34 (permalink)
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    Holloway v Ortega is the one i'm looking forward to most, but I cant predict either fight. I hope Ortega and Stipe win though

      




     
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/04 00:31:20 (permalink)
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    Yeah I want Stipe to win but I think DC will beat him. Stipe has previously acknowledged that he's a small heavyweight and that he should really be fighting at light heavyweight, but he's stayed at heavyweight because he can't bear to give up beer and junk food.

    Despite Stipe's height advantage there's going to be zero difference in weight. DC is seriously thick for his height and he has ridiculous strength. I think on the night DC will actually be the heavier and stronger guy.

    There's a lot of delusional guys on the internet who think that in terms of striking Stipe is some sort of heavyweight version of Conor, but in reality Stipe is just a decent boxer.

    Stipe has certainly has shown that he has KO power, but DC is a special case. He's taken the best shots of Anthony Rumble Johnson and I don't think anyone hits harder than Rumble, either in the light heavyweight or heavyweight division.

    Only Jon Jones has KO'd DC and that was down to a knee, which isn't the same as a punch. Stipe has never shown that he has any form of knee/kick game. Stipe has also never shown any real submission skills. When he had Ngannou exhausted to the point that he could barely move he still couldn't even get a choke on.

    Whilst overall I was deeply impressed with Stipe's domination of Ngannou, I was mildly appalled that the heavyweight champion of the world couldn't submit a guy who was literally unable to breathe due to fatigue. You can bet your arse that DC would have sunk that RNC in with ease.

    It's strange because although Jon Jones beat DC twice I'd make Stipe the favourite against Jones. I think Stipe has the height, reach and power to cause Jones major problems, but I think DC is a nightmare for Stipe and that Stipe will lose his belt.

    If I'm wrong and Stipe beats DC then he's undoubtedly the greatest of all time.
    post edited by Trunks - 2018/07/04 00:43:22
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/04 08:30:23 (permalink)
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    What fcking planet do you live on. DC will be heavier and Stipe is a small HW GTFO. 
     
    Stipe will punch Cormiers head in. Conor has terrible boxing, Stipe is a better boxer he's a fcking golden gloves champ for gods sake McGregor is a good striker but he's no boxer. Expect Stipe to just do what GSP did to Hughes back in the day and break his cheekbones up. 
     
    Ortega/Holloway I expect the winner to the person with the best weight cut. Personally feel Ortgega will get the decision. 
     
    Saki should win as round tree has no ground game and Saki is exceptional on his feet. 
     
    Lewis Ngannou cant pick on so will just punt for Ngannou

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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/04 11:57:25 (permalink)
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    What fcking planet do you live on. DC will be heavier and Stipe is a small HW GTFO. 
     
    Stipe will punch Cormiers head in. Conor has terrible boxing, Stipe is a better boxer he's a fcking golden gloves champ for gods sake McGregor is a good striker but he's no boxer. Expect Stipe to just do what GSP did to Hughes back in the day and break his cheekbones up. 


    Stipe has solid boxing and solid power but I've never actually seen any evidence that he is a Golden Gloves champion. Here's a full list of every Golden Gloves Heavyweight champion since 1928. I can't find Stipe's name anywhere on this list. Some people online have suggested that when this claim was made it was referring to a minor Golden Gloves event that Stipe won in his youth. If true then that certainly wouldn't make him a GG champ. https://en.m.wikipedia.or..._heavyweight_champions

    As for the comparison with Conor. I don't recall having ever said that Conor was an especially good boxer so I'm unsure who you're arguing with. Overall however, Conor is a phenomenally good MMA striker with a varied arsenal of strikes at his disposal.

    Stipe on the other hand pretty much just uses his boxing with a few elbows thrown in. He's been pretty successful at it too. But the way some people are talking you'd think that Stipe had some amazingly varied striking game with kicks, knees, elbows and spinning backfists, and maybe he does, but I've never seen it. He's a hard punching boxer going up against one of the most granite chinned fighters MMA has ever seen. It will be interesting to see how it pans out but I think anyone who believes this won't be Stipe's toughest ever fight is being unrealistic.

    I think Stipe's best chance to win if his boxing isn't working out would be to use his height to clinch with DC and stick his knee in DC's face. All the while trying to avoid the takedown.

    If Stipe can beat DC then to me he's undoubtedly the GOAT.
    post edited by Trunks - 2018/07/04 12:09:56
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/04 13:32:33 (permalink)
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    What fcking planet do you live on. DC will be heavier and Stipe is a small HW GTFO. 
     
    Stipe will punch Cormiers head in. Conor has terrible boxing, Stipe is a better boxer he's a fcking golden gloves champ for gods sake McGregor is a good striker but he's no boxer. Expect Stipe to just do what GSP did to Hughes back in the day and break his cheekbones up. 


    Stipe has solid boxing and solid power but I've never actually seen any evidence that he is a Golden Gloves champion. Here's a full list of every Golden Gloves Heavyweight champion since 1928. I can't find Stipe's name anywhere on this list. Some people online have suggested that when this claim was made it was referring to a minor Golden Gloves event that Stipe won in his youth. If true then that certainly wouldn't make him a GG champ. https://en.m.wikipedia.or..._heavyweight_champions





    Stipe was Cleveland GG champion in 2009. The US GG system is two tiered local ie state level then national. He got panned by Bryant Jennings in the nationals who went on to fight WK and Luis Ortiz so a very credible boxer. http://dcboxing.blogspot.com/2009/05/2009-national-golden-gloves.html
     
    As far I understand the "GG" platform there are multiple regional champs or winners of matches then theres the full blown GG which is the champions vs champions tbh its the real deal.I guess its like us having a Southern Area champion and saying "English Champion" a matter of semantics.  Either way he was credible as a boxer. 
     
    He is by far and away the biggest test of DCs career. JJ just has DC number and whilst he's super talented his size is why he dominates. Given Stipe's wrestling is a lot better than JJ and his boxing more clinical I dont see how DC can get him to the matt and even then deal with the size difference. I am happy to be wrong but I dont see how he's going to win. Look at the Anderson silva fight for reference on size against a fighter well past his prime. 
     

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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/04 13:55:13 (permalink)
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    I'm also happy to be wrong, but although this was quite a while ago, when I see DC doing this to Josh Barnett, I can't believe he couldn't do it to Stipe, given that Stipe is at least 20 pounds lighter.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WPtB8TXwxhc
    post edited by Trunks - 2018/07/04 14:02:21
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/04 15:35:41 (permalink)
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    Yip if i was a betting man stipe sleeps dc.
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/05 06:50:59 (permalink)
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    Well the cluster f**k continues. Holloways out with concussion like symptoms. Could be due to his weight cut also and they are scared to say so.
    I would love to see DC win, I think he deserves it. I have a bet on him but admit it could be heart ruling the head.

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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/05 08:18:52 (permalink)
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    Yeah gutted to see Max is out but he hasn't really looked or sounded too good recently in interviews. I have no idea what's going on with him.
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/05 11:37:00 (permalink)
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    Ffs, just saw this in twitter. He looked/sounded ****ed when in a clip of Bisping interviewing him the other day, and Bisping even asks if he's ok

      




     
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/05 12:30:46 (permalink)
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    Yeah gutted to see Max is out but he hasn't really looked or sounded too good recently in interviews. I have no idea what's going on with him.



    Too much weight cutting I think and being punch drunk as a result of his brain rattling around imo

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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/05 23:51:30 (permalink)
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    Lol fcuking DC nearly puts the whole thing in jeopardy by tripping over at the press conference. I think it was his shoelaces. https://streamable.com/69a56
    post edited by Trunks - 2018/07/06 00:15:48
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/06 15:45:04 (permalink)
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    Seems like virtually every fighter I've heard of or know is in action this saturday, so many events. Fight festival in Manchester, Liam Harrison defending at the Muay Thai GP, even old saenchai is fighting on ThaiFight
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/06 18:21:14 (permalink)
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    DC weighs in at 246, almost 4lbs heavier than Stipe who weighed in at 242.5.

    Chiesa misses weight by almost 2 pounds so presumably will forfeit part of his purse.
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/06 18:25:23 (permalink)
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    DC weighs in at 246, almost 4lbs heavier than Stipe who weighed in at 242.5.

    Chiesa misses weight by almost 2 pounds so presumably will forfeit part of his purse.


    Hahaha pilsbury dough boy is getting flat packed carrying that much weight on his 5,9 frame. Il give you credit for saying he would be heavier though. That’s a big mistake on his part imo

    Looks at least 30lbs over weight https://mmajunkie.com/gal...226-official-weigh-ins
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/06 19:09:06 (permalink)
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    Yeah he doesn't exactly look shredded but he never did, even at 205. Apparently his camp didn't plan to let him get that heavy but as he got heavier they noticed that it didn't affect his performance and his strength was increasing, which is ****ing scary. So they stuck with it. I so badly want to be wrong but I still have DC as the favourite.

    I think more often than not Stipe beats Jones but Jones beats DC. Yet I think DC, with his low centre of gravity, outstanding wrestling and freakish strength is a nightmare for Stipe.
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/06 22:07:58 (permalink)
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    I think DC wins unless Stipe Knocks him out. I cant see how Stipe can get a decision against him

      




     
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/06 23:02:03 (permalink)
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    I love DC and hope he’s alright for the fight but I laughed my bloody head off when he slipped at that conference, he went down like a sack of sh*t
    post edited by Carbfiend - 2018/07/07 19:34:55
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    Re: UFC 226 - Miocic v Cormier 2018/07/07 01:49:48 (permalink)
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    Lol yeah the funniest thing about it was Dana's reaction. You could just read his mind especially after Tony Ferguson tripped on those wires in his home which caused the Khabib fight to get cancelled. I honestly think Dana believed when DC went down the fight was off. https://streamable.com/69a56

    BTW

    The Ultimate Fighter Finale is showing tonight but not everyone will be able to stay up to watch it. Obviously I have zero authority around here, but may I respectfully ask that anyone who wishes to discuss it posts a spoiler warning first.
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