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Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please

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2011/04/08 08:51:06 (permalink)
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Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please

Hello everyone,
 
Had to go to a clinical diagnosis centre for a pre- employment checkup as required by my new employer.
 
Everything else seems to be fine except that the doctor pointed out that I have Umbilical Hernia. I can feel a very small hole/gap when i press my belly button with a finger and when i cough i can feel it pumps/bulges a little. (cant see it in the mirror but can feel it when pressed)
 
I was never aware of this and according to the doctor it must have been there since the time of birth. He also said its nothing at all, and doesnt require any surgery. but advised not to go too heavy as it can aggravate the problem
 
Now, i am getting paranoid and it sounds like all my dreams of lifting heavier and heavier are ruined.
 
what should I do?
what precautions should i take?
would wearing a lifting belt throughout all the workouts help? or just during squats and deads? (does the belt help at all??)
are there any exercises to heal/strengthen the gap?
i will certainly consult a few other docs, but from a weight lifting perspective it will be very helpful to get your opinion and advise.
 
thanks in advance.
 
suyash
post edited by Suyashpy - 2011/04/08 09:00:38

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    brutali
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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/08 09:04:45 (permalink)
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    X2 mate I have exactly the same problem and lifting has made it worse, I dont deadlift or squat or barbell row due to back problems either, last time i was in the docs he said i needed an op and asked will i just make an appontment with the surgeon for you now? I was like ehhh no thanks ill leave it for the minute and get back to you, I can especially feel it doing shoulder presses must be due to being stretched out???

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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/08 10:00:12 (permalink)
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    @brutali - hello mate, sorry to know that it affects your training so much. I guess it will be the same for me from now on. 
     
    worse part is that it will put a mental barrier as i would never know how much is too much. doc says dont do heavy stuff, its obviously subjective, what i already do must be too heavy for the doc.
     
    i have done some research and the mesh method of operation is the most effective and only takes a few mins. any reason for avoiding operation? i have discovered this problem today but if it stops me from lifting, i'll get it done.
     
     

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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/08 10:03:06 (permalink)
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    Get the op done and then you won't spend your life worrying about it, in my opinion.

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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/08 16:18:23 (permalink)
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    my advice would be dont worry about it.  you didnt know it was there before it was pointed out, and it will probably stay the same.
     
    why have an operation for something thats causing no pain and no ill effects? that just doesnt make sense!
     
    i had a small umbilical hernia appear 3 years ago, and apart from the odd time when its been uncomfortable (and it hasnt for over a year) its not affected me or my lifting one little bit.
     
    back to training and stop worrying about it!
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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/08 17:31:20 (permalink)
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    @ Second Row & dazc
     
    firstly thanks for your responses guys. much appreciated.
     
    a few hours ago i was quite disturbed and was thinking in the same direction as what second row suggested. however, I did some thinking and thought that I would have probably never got to know this if I had'nt had this test done.
     
    so now i dont think i'll go for this op as it sounds unnecessary at this stage. if it starts to get worse, maybe i'll get it done then.
     
    However, as I am aware of this now, would you suggest any precautions? mainly, what is the role of a belt? i only wear it for squats and deads atm. would you consider it a  precaution if i use it for all other workouts?
     
    thanks guys.

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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/08 17:33:57 (permalink)
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    Same as Daz for me, been aware of mine for about a year. I can probably count on one hand the number of times it's genuinely flared up and caused me some discomfort.
     
    Never had any problems when lifting, had it feel 'bruised' after some particularly intense sessions and if I'm ill with a dodgy cough. In my case, and probably a lot of others, it's just visceral fat poking through the abdominal defect/hole rather than intestine.
     
    I'd go with the above though, if it doesn't cause you any discomfort, then don't worry about it. If mine starts to aggravate me more, then I'd consider going under the knife, but you're looking at 4-6 weeks of no weights and then a further few weeks easing yourself back into it. If you can cope without any real lifting for 2-3 months, crack on, I'm in no rush for that reason.
     
    Edit - Belt I'd avoid. Hernia's occur because the intra-abdominal pressure is too great for the abdominal fascia, causing it to split and have fat or intestine pop through. A lifting belt gives you something extra to push against to support your spine, so it just increases IAP further!
    post edited by Ak_88 - 2011/04/08 17:35:32
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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/08 17:44:10 (permalink)
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    Ak_88


    Edit - Belt I'd avoid. Hernia's occur because the intra-abdominal pressure is too great for the abdominal fascia, causing it to split and have fat or intestine pop through. A lifting belt gives you something extra to push against to support your spine, so it just increases IAP further!

     
    Hello AK, thanks for your advise, but I didnt quite understand the BELT part. Any chance you can elaborate/make it simple for me? Sorry to bother, but i really want to know about the belt and hernia relation.
     
    cheers,
    post edited by Suyashpy - 2011/04/08 17:46:05

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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/08 17:53:51 (permalink)
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    Ok;
     
    Hernia's occur because the pressure in your abdomen (intra-abdominal pressure) rises to a point where the fascia of your abdominal muscles (which is like a casing for your organs lets say) cannot 'hold in' everything. The pressure causes the fascia to split or tear, it might be a whole tear in one go, it might be little tears that accumulate over time.
     
    When you use a belt, you provide support to your lower back by increasing your intra-abdominal pressure. So your IAP increases with heavy lifts, and increases more because you're using the belt, which means more pressure on your fascia, which means if you have a hernia, theres more chance of it getting worse.
     
    Does that make sense?
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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/08 19:16:30 (permalink)
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    generally i would agree that the belt isnt going to do much of anything for the hernia, especially if its umbilical. in fact wearing a belt makes mine uncomfortable.
     
    i think there is some debate over the effect a belt has on abdominal pressure though..?
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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/08 20:05:54 (permalink)
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    Is it? I'm unsure really as I've not looked into the quality of the research, but have seen it banded about previously. Makes sense in theory to me though.
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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/09 07:10:18 (permalink)
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    @ AK - thanks for your detailed explanation, it makes sense and is helpful. 
     
    @daz - i'll keep that in mind.
     
    as you guys suggested that it could stay the same forever and may never interfere with my training. its enough for my peace of mind. i'll carry on as usual.
     
    suyash
    post edited by Suyashpy - 2011/04/09 11:32:32

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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/09 12:20:18 (permalink)
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    Got a small one too, it originally flared up a few months ago, it soon settled. Incidentally i started using a belt - agree that it probably increases intra-abdominal pressure but the psychological placebo effect helps IMO. I only use my belt for squats. 
     
    I'm deferring  repair until its giving me real jip. 
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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/09 12:26:33 (permalink)
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    Do you think if we all club together the british hernia centre will do us a group discount?
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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/10 09:08:54 (permalink)
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    Ak_88

    Do you think if we all club together the british hernia centre will do us a group discount?

     
    i wouldnt be surprised if a significant number of their patients are athletes. so no harm in trying our luck!!  I checked their website but they dont mention the costs. any idea how much does an op cost. and they seem to be advocating the mesh method over the stitches. must be heavy on pocket too   

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    Re:Umbilical Hernia - Precautions and suggestions please 2011/04/10 09:16:33 (permalink)
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    I came across this a while ago, and it's saying if you go privately it'll cost you about £900
     
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-20943/Quick-cure-hernias.html
     
    Though they do take NHS referrals, wonder what the criteria are for it.
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