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Under-eating and overtraining??

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2005/07/27 16:48:41 (permalink)

Under-eating and overtraining??

Hi all,
I am currently in the middle of bulking (or trying too!). It's been going well until about last week when i started a new job and since then i've been finding it difficult to get enough food down! The thing is i started a new training routine a couple of weeks ago. It is a variation of westside training. To get to the point.. i have found that i feel very tired on wednesdays, which is the day after monday and tuesday's max effort upper and lower body sessions. I dont feel anywhere near as tired on other days.

Here is an example of monday and tuesday's sessions:

MON:

Bench press - work up to max weight for 3 reps
Inc dumbell press - 4X8
Bent over rows + scarecrow superset - 4X10
Dumbell curls - 4X8
Ab circuit

TUES:

Cleans - work up to max weight for 3 reps
Squat - work up to max weight for 3 reps
SLDL - 4X12
Shrug + wrist roller super set - 3X12

So what do you think? Could the two very neuromuscularly demanding sessions on consecutive days combined with under-eating be causing me to overtrain?

Thanks,
Rich
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    ToxicToffee
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    RE: Under-eating and overtraining?? 2005/07/27 17:24:59 (permalink)
    whats the diet like mate?
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    RE: Under-eating and overtraining?? 2005/07/27 18:00:14 (permalink)
    Well i dont think im eating enough to grow as much as id like at the moment, but i am eating good clean natural foods. But i dont think im in deficit. Also im prob not getting enough protein.
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    RE: Under-eating and overtraining?? 2005/07/27 18:34:15 (permalink)
    Can you outline for us a typical day of food intake? Ie. all that you eat, and the times etc.

    mcl

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    Well i dont think im eating enough to grow as much as id like at the moment, but i am eating good clean natural foods. But i dont think im in deficit. Also im prob not getting enough protein.

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    RE: Under-eating and overtraining?? 2005/07/29 12:22:33 (permalink)
    Ok here goes...

    8.00 - 30g whey in water with 1-2g CEE

    8.30 - large bran flakes and peice of fruit

    11.00 - 1 or 2 'Big fella's protein bars'

    1.00 - chicken, veg and potato (portion size varies, if not sufficient i may add a flapjack and milk on the end)

    4.00 - whey, maltodextrin, banana, oats, CEE

    5.00 - Train

    6.30 - whey, glutamine, maltodextrin

    7.30 - wholemeal pasta and chicken/tuna (large portion)

    9.30 - some sort of fatty fish on granary toast / or some cereal (<-- cereal not a great sub. i know)

    11.00 - Whey and milk (sometimes with Udos oil)

    I also supplement with a multivitamin with my morning whey, vit C at lunch and zinc before bed.

    So what do you think?
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    RE: Under-eating and overtraining?? 2005/07/30 09:51:27 (permalink)
    im currenly having the exact same problem mate. i think my diet is inadequate with the amount of training i do and have lost 4 kg in the last couple of weeks, very lean already. Need to get it sorted but it'll take time, just keep readin up on here lke i do and you will learn a lot.
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    RE: Under-eating and overtraining?? 2005/07/30 09:56:00 (permalink)
    two links

    where you maybe are at

    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_459373/mpage_1/key_counting/tm.htm#459373

    where you may need to go

    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/New_article%3A_Mass_Gaining_%2D_Toxic_Style%21/m_618307/tm.htm

    both IMO though
    post edited by ToxicToffee - 2005/07/30 09:58:46
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    RE: Under-eating and overtraining?? 2005/07/30 20:57:57 (permalink)
    Thanks for the advice guys.

    Toxic. I have read both of those posts before and both were v. interesting. Have to say though that i am no where near where u were on the cal counting thing. When i first read it months ago i was definitely on that road and it served to be a very useful warning. At the moment, however, I am barely counting cals at all. But yeah i am trying to aim for the structure you set out in the mass gaining post. I just need to eat more!

    Thanks for the tips!
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    RE: Under-eating and overtraining?? 2005/07/30 21:19:41 (permalink)
    glad i could help mate and good luck

    just adjust that diet to your taste and cal requirement

    you dont get fat over night, let go and see where it takes you
    you can always cut back if too much fat is going on
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    RE: Under-eating and overtraining?? 2005/07/30 22:14:21 (permalink)
    youll find that if you also dont eat well, and properly, i.e. lack of green veg, nutrients etc, youll find that youll get ill easily too.

    Hazard a touch of narcissism without shame.
    There is no room for junk food in any diet whatsoever, leave the junk in the bin.
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