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2006/07/19 02:33:34 (permalink)
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Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks

WOuld I be able to use Test Prop effectively for 20 weeks, or should I change esthers after 10 weeks or so due to the body getting used to it? I am stacking it with Tren for 6 weeks and changing to NPP for the last 6-8 weeks of the cycle
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    Medichecks
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/19 08:15:44 (permalink)
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    fine mate...no point changing esters IMO
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/19 10:17:17 (permalink)
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    not a problem at all..the frequent injections will become routine.
    ran prop for about the same length of time with ed injections.
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/19 11:04:37 (permalink)
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    Cool, just wondeed whether I would build a tolerance over such a long time nd whether its effectiveness would decrease
    Not too bothered about EOD jabs, but need to open some new sites up soon I think
    Cheers lads
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/19 11:24:31 (permalink)
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    why run prop for 20wks instead of ehth, cyp or sust?????

    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/21 15:14:50 (permalink)
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    Water retention mainly and becuse I have to be able to come off ASAP due to the possibly of a medical condition flaring up
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/21 16:08:15 (permalink)
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    if your running prop for upto 20weeks you will still get water retention

    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/21 18:57:00 (permalink)
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    Yeh? I am not too clued up on it TBH, I was under the impression I wouldnt do, but I havent looked to closely into it
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/21 19:13:08 (permalink)
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    using test prop ed or eod for 20weeks is the same as using test enth for 20 weeks apart from you will be injecting more frequently with prop and the prop will leave your system quicker.

    test prop causes less water retention in short cycles (ie 6weeks when in cutting) cos once your jabs stop the test quickly leaves your system


    taking test for upto 20weeks will cause water retention no matter what ester you use

    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/24 20:47:13 (permalink)
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    Hi mate, Do you plan on running the same dose for the 20 weeks? If so its pretty pointless IMO.

    Your body gets used to the dose after a certain time.. after around 6-8 weeks the gains haulted with me, what I done was switched over to masteron/tren for 4 weeks, giving myself a break from test and then bang, once i started back on the prop the gains were coming again.
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/24 20:58:41 (permalink)
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    Yeh started on 150mg EOD, so was planning pretty much on keping that dose, but this is the point of the post..Is this a worth doing?
    U say no, and I have heard other people say this too
    What would u suggest? I am running Prop 150mg Tren 75mg EOD, what could I switch to in a 2/3 weeks b4 changing back to prop then?
    Thanks
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/24 21:06:37 (permalink)
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    Hi mate, Im speaking from past experience and really at that dose the gains will hault after around 8 weeks.

    IMO 20 weeks on the same compound and same dose is pointless.

    Got to keep switching it up, can use anything fast acting to give yourself a little break from the prop, masteron, npp, any oral.. Maybe come off ASS altogether and run a little pct using igf..

    Have 3-4 weeks break from the prop, refresh those recpetors then get back on it, it works well for me. It's like that blasting/crusing method.
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/24 21:28:40 (permalink)
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    Well so far the cycle is this:

    Wk 1-8 Prop 150mg EOD
    Wk 1-8 Tren Ace 75 mg EOD (Had a 10 day break from Tren during this cos of holiday and the jabs were too much to do wen away)

    In week 8 now, strength is immense these last 2 weeks
    Will run the prop/tren as usual this week (will take me till nxt wek to get more gear)
    Could then maybe do

    Wk 10-13 NPP 150mg EOD?
    Wk 10-13 Tbol 80mg ED?

    Any suggestions?

    Then back to

    Wk 14-20 Prop 150mg EOD
    Wk 14-20 Tren 75mg eod or NPP 150 mg eod

    Ur thoughts on that anyone?

    Thanks
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/24 21:32:24 (permalink)
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    Or..
    Could I just up the prop dose to 200mg eod or 150mg ed? Would this work too?
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/24 23:33:25 (permalink)
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    Would agree that gains stop - for me after 6-7 weeks

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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/25 00:10:24 (permalink)
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    Looks fine mate, I'd add some proviron with the npp/tbol, 25mg EOD.

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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/25 08:06:47 (permalink)
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    Is the proviron due to the lack of test when running NPP & Tbol?
    Hows the TBol doseage look?

    Cheers for the advice lads
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/25 11:50:14 (permalink)
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    I have similar question about duration then ...


    1-7 prop @ 150 eod
    1-6 tren ace @ 75 eod
    1-4 winny @ 50 ed

    then

    8-17 sust @ 250 e3d
    9-16 tren d @ 150 e3d
    9-14 dbol @ 30 ed

    17-19 prop @ 100 eod
    17-19 winny @ 50 ed

    I know its 19 weeks on test but does it help as i change the esters half way? Wasn't sure as at the end of the day test is test??

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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/25 11:52:29 (permalink)
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    Dont really like that Matty as its pretty much a 17 weeks test/tren cycle. Changing esters may help a little but your body doesnt know what an ester is, just the hormone. Also, if doing it that way I would start the sust at week 5 and wouldnt bother going from tren ace to depot
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    RE: Using Prop for (up to) 20 weeks 2006/07/25 14:58:47 (permalink)
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    Been researching and having a think, and fancy using Masteron, so.....hows this look?

    Wk 1-10 Prop 150mg EOD
    Wk 1-10 Tren Ace 75 mg EOD
    Wk 11-14 Masteron 150mg EOD
    Wk 14-20 Prop 150mg EOD
    Wk 14-20 Tren Ace 100mg EOD (Switching brands to 100mg/ml)

    Any good?
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