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Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle?

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2014/12/10 15:42:24 (permalink)

Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle?

I have just had my Cholesterol checked as part of a medical Health check and as I expected it isn`t good.
Currently running Deca @ 400 a.w. and test @ 500 a.w.
Never really bothered with this before but the G.P. has got interested now as its so bad.
Is there any way of lowering it to an exceptable level while still continuing with the cycle?
Unfortunately my AAS use is not something that I am willing to discuss with my G.P.
 
LOL,  on a side note I also had the usual "your BMI is way too high" comment, until I had to take my top off for the B.P. test  

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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/10 17:40:14 (permalink)
    until I had to take my top off for the B.P. test

     
    GP`s are not a bundle of knowledge regarding PED`s but there not stupid either. If your physique is that noticeable he/she would have a good idea what your up to.







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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/10 20:06:53 (permalink)
    you could take simvastatin to lower bad cholesterol levels
     
    if you're on injectable only cycle then it's defo an option. other than that the only other bit you can lower are your triglycerides (the fat from food) but those make up only a small portion of your over all cholesterol level so frankly it's easier to just take a statin
     
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/10 20:07:54 (permalink)
    lol yeah i've got a 30" waist and yet i'm clinically obese! lol
     
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/11 10:34:11 (permalink)
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    until I had to take my top off for the B.P. test

     
    GP`s are not a bundle of knowledge regarding PED`s but there not stupid either. If your physique is that noticeable he/she would have a good idea what your up to.


    No didnt any weird looks or comments, just think the BMI is pretty useless, Nurse pretty much agreed but still had to write into the results LOL . 

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    Re: 2014/12/11 10:42:33 (permalink)
    Don't take a statin. Your cholesterol will drop once you come off, lipids in my experience will raise in relation to dose.



    Only when I use more than 400mg a week of test do they raise,and then its still just within range.



    If its excessively high then you need to consider your health. If you're only on cycle for 6-12 weeks of the year with these high values then fine but it wont be good for you doing this year round.



    What were your values?



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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/11 10:44:11 (permalink)
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    you could take simvastatin to lower bad cholesterol levels
     
    if you're on injectable only cycle then it's defo an option. other than that the only other bit you can lower are your triglycerides (the fat from food) but those make up only a small portion of your over all cholesterol level so frankly it's easier to just take a statin
     
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    Thanks Ninja was hoping you would post: remember reading about cholesterol in some of your previous posts.
    The main problem is that I have very little HDL Cholesterol 0.47.  I am going in again for a fasted LDL Cholesterol test.
    Statins aren`t some thing I want start on at my age , I know the`re going to inevitable sometime but once you are on them you are on them for good.
    My father is on them (age related) but has found that he can get away with a fraction of the doses he was given.
    So maybe I will..
    Thinking of going over to smaller dose , maybe even cut the Deca out completely.
    Strange as I feel fine, Bp is a little high but no biggie and always recovers when I come of a cycle.
    Diet wise I am pretty strict with Sat. fat intake and consume at least 80 grams of health fats , almonds,  Hemp oil etc.
    Thanks for the replies guys.
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/11 13:55:50 (permalink)
    yeah im on 40mg tabs but i know for a fact they come in 10's and 20's but i was started on 40!
     
    so i split them and take half so i have boxes of the stuff sitting about cos if i don't order on time i get hassle off the doctor
     
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/12 09:39:03 (permalink)
    Playing devils advocate, why are you worrying about your cholesterol level? There are plenty of studies out there about the cholesterol myth. Google it and see. One to look at is the Framingham Heart Study.
     







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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/12 10:44:04 (permalink)
    Dementia:
    I wasnt worried about my cholesterol at all.
    I went to my G.P. about another unrelated issue and for some reason he decided that I should have a health screen/check.
    The Nurse and G.P. are concerned with my HDL being so low and want me to go for more tests.
    I suppose I could just refuse but I dont see that that will help me.
    I realise that some of this is due to AAS but was surprised that a 400 Deca/ 500 Test cycle would have such an effect .
    As I said before I feel fine , diet is good.
    I am not sleeping well due some other issues which is why I went in in the first place.
    (G.P. wont prescribe me anything for sleep)

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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/15 01:47:26 (permalink)
    Eat your greens and bang out cardio 3 times a week. I eat spinach salads 3 times a day. **** like a rabbit but my cholesterol is under 200.
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/15 12:55:11 (permalink)
    Thanks , my diet is pretty good , health fats etc.
    Good point on the Cardio thanks, I have been a bit lazy in the regard lately, I will start back on the HIT cardio again.
    Statins are looking like the solution for me, as I have now read that one can cycle them rather than having to stay on them for life.
    More tests soon so we will see.
    Thanks for your advice Ninja
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/15 13:25:19 (permalink)
    yeah mate you can just take when on cycle to up your good cholesterol and drop the bad. 
     
    even 20mg ed or eod would be better than nothing at all. my total cholesterol was 6.5 and with half a 40mg simvastatin ed it's down to 2.5 which is acceptable. btw i've had heart surgery, 15 heart attacks and my dad's had both bypass surgery and a transplant, so statins are pretty much a daily thing for me but shows you that 20mg ed makes a huge difference and i've got boxes of the stuff free to a good home if anyone wants it?
     
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/15 20:17:19 (permalink)
    Ninja, how long would i need to take them to see the type of reduction that you mention. And do you have any noticeable sides ?
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/15 20:21:01 (permalink)
    Ninja you have had 15 heart attacks? Dafuq?
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2014/12/19 23:02:56 (permalink)
    bigwig - good question mate - when i started it at first i was on for 3 months before i was retested and that's the reduction i got, since then i've been on a maintenance dose if you like and my levels have remained at the 2-2.5 total cholesterol mark. i have  a family history of hypercholesterolemia (or something) my dad's cholesterol levels are 13+ and he's ON statins! although admittedly he also has someone elses heart in him
     
    medic - yeah i was born with a heart condition mate - Wolfe Parkinson White syndrome. causes a very high resting heart rate which under exercise can lead to your heart stopping for a bit, generally starts by itself again tho like with normal heart attacks, has a wee break then has a rethink and starts going again. only ever needed anyone to do CPR a few times lol. all fixed now tho as i've had radio frequency catheter ablation, which was bloody sore but well worth it
     
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2015/01/14 14:15:00 (permalink)
    I get my blood test done regularly and found that after supplementing with fish oil 2 in am 2 in pm and 5000iu VitD my cholesterol got within normal range even when on cycle. i guess everyone different but this worked for me!
     
     
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    Re: Viability of lowering Cholesterol while on a cycle? 2015/01/14 14:29:49 (permalink)
    Thanks I am waiting for another series of blood tests and have cut the Deca out and reduced my doses of Test.
    Alongside a host of dietary supplements and meds. 
    Hopefully I can get my Cholesterol ratio somewhere near reasonable. 
    My Haematocrit is also higher than my G.P. is happy with.
    The things we go through to achieve our goals hey?  
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