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2014/11/29 21:36:45 (permalink)

Views on equipoise

Have you used it? Did you rate it? What dose did you run?

It appears it's either hated or rated, I did a search and there are a fair few posts saying it's unless. Alot of pro body builders say it's fantastic and so far I love it.

I have been on 1200mg of test and eq for three weeks and about to well I was going to lower it to 800mg per week but I may drop to 1g a week of each for another 17 weeks.

Even across many of the other boards eq is said to be unless and a waste of cash, I'm not an americanist 'if that's that's not a real word but it should be' but it seems like the all knowing American bro's love to slag equipoise off

So far no raised blood pressure and no sides apart from slight nipple tingle day after I inject but. 5 adex e3d keeps it under control
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/11/29 22:26:26 (permalink)
    I use EQ to increase red blood cells to counter the Tren which kills my cardio. With the EQ I can still push out 5k without feeling like I am gasping for air. I run 250mg/wk. Low dose just enough to get the red blood cells up.
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/11/29 22:39:03 (permalink)
    I'll be looking into donating blood mid cycle, I've found several threads back in 2009 I just don't want to bring six year old threads back to life.

    So much information on equipoise, the majority of it is probably just repeated nonsense from people who have never used the drug
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/11/29 23:30:32 (permalink)
    i've never used it so generally just ignore posts on it - this is actually the first eq post i've ever commented on. i've read more than a few but the views again seem to be polar opposites of each other!
     
    i'd be interested in learning peoples experiences tho and perhaps adding it as i generally do test/mast/tren cycles now
     
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/11/30 01:06:13 (permalink)
    Like I said night and day on cardio with my Tren E love.
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/11/30 08:45:46 (permalink)
    It was too difficult to come to a conclusion on equipoise because of the mixed reviews

    My appetite has increased that's for sure, it's hard to compare it to other compounds since I've only ever used
    Test
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    Dbol

    I don't usually feel this good when on test only, I've only felt that good on Tren but don't like how harsh tren is on my body.

    I'd recommend trying it due to the fact it's relatively mild on the body, I wouldn't be put off by the terrible views on it.
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/11/30 09:14:15 (permalink)
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    Have you used it? Did you rate it? What dose did you run?

    It appears it's either hated or rated, I did a search and there are a fair few posts saying it's unless. Alot of pro body builders say it's fantastic and so far I love it.




    Comes under the pretty useless heading for me I've used it a few times in the past.....once tried to cut on it, but couldn't stop eating ...suppose to be good for vascularity?...was too busy eating to find out lol.
      

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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/11/30 09:18:16 (permalink)
    What dose where you on? Countless posts saying you need to be on 800mg+ to see any real results and to stay on 16 weeks+

    I'm pretty strict with my diet these days, now I'm older it seems my body is less forgiving. My dad used to be really athletic and strong, now he looks like humpty dumpty I just need to look at him and it's enough to put me off food.
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/11/30 09:42:59 (permalink)
    It was a long time ago mate but if I remember it was about 400mg with 250mg of test for 20 weeks...as I said it was a basic cutting cycle...should've run the test @ 1g n turned it into a bulking cycle tbh with that eating lol. 
     
    I've also used it in cycles but with other strong androgens so it was hard to tell if it made any difference....maybe it helped as an appetite stimulant?

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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/11/30 09:53:52 (permalink)
    I don't have much of a massive appetite so it has helped,

    There was an article I read about equipoise that had been quoted on loads of forums, I just looked for it and now I can't did it - it stated that equipoise should be included in ever cycle and listed all the benefits and also references to pro body builders saying it's better than Deca and it's there favourite steroid... I can't remember who exactly said that, I'd need to find the article but everyone had different opinions.

    Generally though it has been said many times 800mg is the sweet spot any less is a waste, it's not exactly cheap to run 800/1000mg a week

    Might be worth trying it once more at a much higher dose, I'm still on 1200mg I'm dropping to 800mg on Wednesday so it is a big drop if it didn't cost so much I'd stick at 1200mg tbh
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/12/01 12:23:44 (permalink)
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    I'll be looking into donating blood mid cycle, I've found several threads back in 2009 I just don't want to bring six year old threads back to life.

    So much information on equipoise, the majority of it is probably just repeated nonsense from people who have never used the drug

     
    Donating blood while on a cycle is not a good idea IMO.
    The patient receiving your blood could suffer complications. This is not fair to the medical staff who could unwittingly cause further damage to their patient.
    If you are concerned with elevated RBC then look at Therapeutic Phlebotomy.

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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/12/01 12:38:12 (permalink)
    Agreed with Dumbat. Depending on who receives your blood it could add complications.
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/12/01 12:46:01 (permalink)
    What complications? I thought my blood would be fine weather I'm on gear or not? I could let them drain me then I suddenly remember I took some dianabol so they couldn't use it

    I've read on other forums during research into equipoise that other users regularly donate blood when on to lower rbc, I have no idea what issues it could cause but I'm interested in knowing.

    I've gave blood before, I don't like the Dr taking blood it's the needle in the vein I don't like - stupid really
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/12/01 13:13:35 (permalink)
    In theory when you donate blood on gear the recipient could end up getting the steroids in his own system without knowing. There's also the fact that gear causes bad lipid profile.
     
    But the amount of blood you're giving is so small I think it hardly matters. I mean even with 2400mg of gear in you the blood concentration of these steroids should total somewhere around 10000ng/dl, which means in half a liter of blood (typical donation) there'll be 5mg of gear. That's nothing, even if the recipient is female.
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/12/01 13:20:10 (permalink)
    Okay, what do you think medic? I wouldn't want it to cause any ill effects to the recipient.

    I'm not even sure what blood group I am, from memory it's not the rarest group like my wife is.
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/12/01 14:45:27 (permalink)
    I would not donate blood while on gear. While I don't see a bunch of severe complications from it when someone is hanging on by a thread whether it be from immunosuppression or a physiological issue I would not want that to come into play. And if your blood was donated to a woman or a pre-puberty child it can cause other issues. Again the odds are unlikely but if it was your child or family would you want to risk it? If you are trying to relieve blood pressure or just stimulate blood production you could always practice blood letting. We had someone for religious reasons could not take medication come into the ER. They were hypertensive so we took a 14g IV catheter and drained a unit of blood. It went in the trash due to their religion but his blood pressure came down. Long term not the answer but at least they didn't stroke out.
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/12/01 14:50:16 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info, I'll give it a miss I wasn't keen on getting it done.

    I check my BP a few times a week, I'm sure I'll survive I wouldn't be so worried if it was a 12 week cycle instead of 20
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/12/01 15:02:05 (permalink)
    You can message me if you are concerned about BP. Really don't have an issue with killing the nephrons in your kidneys until you are running over 140/80. A spike won't be bad but sustained elevated BP is not good.
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/12/01 17:58:13 (permalink)
    Last time I checked it was the high end of normal according to some NHS chart I used - my wife checks hers at the same time are we are roughly the same, it's just a cheap blood pressure monitor from llyods pharmacy.
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    Re: Views on equipoise 2014/12/01 18:34:26 (permalink)
    Does it go around the wrist or bicep?
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