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2009/08/03 16:24:10 (permalink)
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Walking/Climbing food/drink intake

Hi all,
 
Me and a few mates like to go walking on moutain in the lakes etc like Scafell Pike/Snowdon/Ben Nevis and other less known equally testing stuff. Going to the Alps in a couple of weeks.  Just wondering what other peoples opinons are on food for this type of venture.
 
In the past i have tending to start the day with a shake with Oats. Then take protein bars/snickers/powerade drinks for energy. Was just wondering if anyone had any alternative suggestions for such a day. What about afterwards full meal? We tend to be on the mountain for 4 hours +. Hopefully going to do the 3 peaks soon and this will entail doing all three of the above in around a 20 hour period again any suggestions food/drink wise to keep muscle loss to a minimum whilst hopefully burning a little flab :-)
 
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    Re:Walking/Climbing food/drink intake 2009/08/03 18:42:30 (permalink)
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    oats are good for complex carbs at breakfast

    as well as whey i'd include a slow releasing solid protein source

    to snack on while you walk protein bars, nuts, seeds, rice cakes, oat cakes, protein shakes etc

    if fat loss is your goal you need to monitor kcal intake a little more closely to ensure you're in a defecit




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    Re:Walking/Climbing food/drink intake 2009/08/03 18:58:22 (permalink)
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    Beef Jerky may be a good hillwalking protein option.
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    Re:Walking/Climbing food/drink intake 2009/08/04 12:12:39 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the suggestions will come in useful at the weekend!!
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    Re:Walking/Climbing food/drink intake 2009/08/04 12:51:07 (permalink)
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    I am quite a keen walker and after i got a heart rate monitor for the gym i was quite surprised by what readings i was getting when i wore it for walking. I did the Yorkshire 3 peaks, the Lyke Wake Walk a few weeks ago and a few walks on the North Yorkshire Moors and i burnt off alot more than i thought i would.
    The figures i remember was on a 14 mile walk, with about 800 meters climbing i polished off about 2,500 calories, and my heart rate was up around 170-175 on the climbs, which i admit i tend to hit head on and not mess about.
    I usually take a couple of sandwiches, usually chicken on wholemeal bread, a pack of oatcakes, plenty of flapjack and some dextrose for a much needed boost before any steep climbing and sometimes a pack of nuts and the odd protein bar.

    If your going for the three peaks that a 24 hour target isnt it, so you are gona need to eat alot.

    I have a 3l camelbak for mountain biking which i use when walking, i usually have 1l of Lucozade and 2 litres of water mixed, its kinda the right balance for me between a little energy and a thirst quencher, but this is down to you really. I find too much lucozade and i am always thirsty and have a crap taste in my mouth.


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    Re:Walking/Climbing food/drink intake 2009/08/04 15:56:15 (permalink)
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    Gunit,
     
    Thanks for taking time to reply. I have a 3l bladder for my bag, have always just had striaght water in it tho. Might give the luco mix a try as we doing Helvellyn and maybe Skiddaw this weekend as a warm up for the Alps. Thanks for the food suggestions as well will give them a go.
     
    Funnily enough i have a cheap(ish) polar HRM on route. Been trying to monitor my cardio myself and find the stuff on the machines at the gym jump all over the place, so will be interesting to keep an eye on it. As you say i can imagine it gets pretty high on the tough stuff, like you, we dont like to faff about just get it done, i love the challenge tho, not necessarly doing it for the fat burn but it is an added bonus if i shead a little.
     
    Have been/am on a keto diet at the mo but think im obviously gonna have to make some changes before the walks as currently my carb day would be this saturday and not sure thats a good idea on a the day of a big walk?
     
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    Re:Walking/Climbing food/drink intake 2009/08/04 16:32:08 (permalink)
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    food and drink choices for walking/climbing performance really can vary massively depending on lots of factors length of route,pace,intensity, dry/wet route, single/multi day or extended single, foods you can tollerate and of course happy foods.

    for a pretty much standard single day (starting after early breakfast back for last meal)

    "In the past i have tending to start the day with a shake with Oats. Then take protein bars/snickers/powerade drinks for energy. Was just wondering if anyone had any alternative suggestions for such a day"

    is perfectly ok .

    for 3 peaks its quite similar maybe with some carb gels on the hill, the serious refueling will be done on the road between peaks (support team will make a massive differance)
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    Re:Walking/Climbing food/drink intake 2009/08/05 14:59:41 (permalink)
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    I have never done a keto diet, but doing a keto diet and going up Hellvellyn wouldnt work well i imagine.

    Based on my limited understanding of keto etc, your heart rate is going to be too high on the climbs if your on zero carbs and your going to risk muscle loss and lack of energy to actually get up in the first place!

    If it was me i would have the refeed day on the Friday and then have carbs as well on the Saturday to keep you fueled and preserve your muscle. I think just  consuimg carbs during the walk and not before will leave you short handed. I reckon Helvellyn is a 3000 to 4000 calorie walk. I havent done Skiddaw since i was young and i cant remember it, but as its not very much smaller, i think it will be in the same expenditure range.
    If you feed yourself up, then you can go up Helvellyn and Skiddaw it with no worries, which is how it should be when your in the lakes!

    Very jealous, wish i was going up Hellvellyn this weekend, make sure you go up the Striding Edge route from Glenridding ;-)

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    Re:Walking/Climbing food/drink intake 2009/08/05 16:27:32 (permalink)
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    Lost, thanks for that, hadn't thought of carb gels.
     
    Gunit, I think your right im gonna go for a refuel on Friday and carbs on the walk as well, may not be in sync totally with the diet but you gotta live at the end of the day and i really wanna do it this weekend.
     
    Re Glenridding via Striding Edge thats the exact route we have planned. Will be interesting to compare it to Sharp Edge - Blencathra, and Crib Goch - Snowdon which we have done and found both to be great walks.
     
    Cheers again all for your input!
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