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Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!)

Ive been sitting on this for a few weeks. At work we have access to a kind of social media network. Its only internal but its not super serious or just business but obviously its not like a,public forum. You can have a bit of fun in discussions within reason.
Just before xmas someone posted a message about how they hoped god would be with everyone and theyre families at this holy time.
As im totally hilarious (obviously,) i reponded by jokingly suggesting god couldnt make it round my gaff as he was busy, his sons birthday apparently. I honestly didnt mean to cause offence and the joke was me suggesting i wasnt aware xmas was a celebration of jesus birth, in effect mocking myself in jest.
I do consider myself spiritual but not religious ive read lots of scriptures including the bible in detail for years in fact, in my search for the TRUTH. I was never a 'christain' or declared myself as such. I was just searching for my own answers.
Quite quickly people (not the actual guy he was in india) were on me and told me how appalling and disrespectful i was to mock his faith?
I replied, sensibly, and said that hadnt been my intention and that i knew the bible and christianity well, a,lot better than a lot of so called christians. The guy himself then piped up and said i was unwell in the head (possible?) But was altogether un christian like?
So i get that work probs wasnt the best platform to be honest but were not really supposed to discuss religious or political beliefs anyway. I have no intention on starting a religious debate here or want backing up im just interested in an objective honest view. Was i going too far or were they too sensitive.?
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    ANIMAL
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/02 23:51:11 (permalink)
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    Blow completely out of proportion imo. Unfortunately you have to tread on egg shells with everyone these days! Even more so in a work environment. That could quickly escalate to a grievance being lodged against you and all you need is some bleeding heart SJW HR officer and you’re fecked
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 00:01:11 (permalink)
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    ahh just chill mate !  all light hearted banter 
     
    only place you over stpped the mark was spunkbubble , tosser and the other one, just articulate your point a bit more rather than resort to names . didn't affect me in the slightest as im 41 and work in a busy office where we talk like that to each other daily so no offence taken here .I do play devils advocate a lot on here and rub people p the wrong way a lot of times unintentionally ( apart from socialist Uriel) and trunks avoiding difficult vegan questions.
     
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 00:16:57 (permalink)
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    No i believe you doc i just often overeact and get out of my pram over very little. The name calling was out of order i can be the prize ar5ehole at times, including earlier.
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 00:20:04 (permalink)
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    Blow completely out of proportion imo. Unfortunately you have to tread on egg shells with everyone these days! Even more so in a work environment. That could quickly escalate to a grievance being lodged against you and all you need is some bleeding heart SJW HR officer and you’re fecked

    Well ive waited til now as i was expecting a backlash , nothing as of yet?
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 00:24:30 (permalink)
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    I work in an office too (managing the infrastructure for government programme/contract we have). Despite how geeky that sounds the banter can be brutal! And im easily baited (shock) would you believe it! =D
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 08:17:36 (permalink)
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    I'm not religious, but do respect other peoples religions and beliefs.  But, I don't consider what you said as being disrespectful.  As you say, it was more a self targeting joke.
     
    IMO, Christmas is not even a christian holiday and is just a distortion of our Yule, just like Easter. So if they tried to play the whole religious insult thing, you could always claim to be Pagan and that you were insulted by the comment yourself...

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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 08:28:03 (permalink)
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    I'm not religious, but do respect other peoples religions and beliefs.  But, I don't consider what you said as being disrespectful.  As you say, it was more a self targeting joke.
     
    IMO, Christmas is not even a christian holiday and is just a distortion of our Yule, just like Easter. So if they tried to play the whole religious insult thing, you could always claim to be Pagan and that you were insulted by the comment yourself...

    Good point i actually thought at the time what if other people have different beliefs? A different deity? Are they permitted to be offended? And it wasnt as if he just said merry xmas everyone it was explicity religious and christian, which were not really supposed to discuss.
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 08:58:38 (permalink)
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    Top quality gag in my opinion, too many fairy's around nowadays. Hopefully its just the one bloke and everyone else saw the funny side of it.
     
    We've got a social media style network at work, and I get so many opportunities to take the piss its unreal, but I have to restrain myself incase I upset someone. And I work for a german company, full of german people, its almost laid out on a plate for me.

     
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 09:09:44 (permalink)
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    Top quality gag in my opinion, too many fairy's around nowadays. Hopefully its just the one bloke and everyone else saw the funny side of it.
     
    We've got a social media style network at work, and I get so many opportunities to take the piss its unreal, but I have to restrain myself incase I upset someone. And I work for a german company, full of german people, its almost laid out on a plate for me.





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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 09:12:45 (permalink)
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    I do play devils advocate a lot on here and rub people p the wrong way a lot of times unintentionally ( apart from socialist Uriel) and trunks avoiding difficult vegan questions.
     


    You don't rub me up the wrong way. And you don't ask difficult questions about veganism. Nothing you ask is difficult. Your questions are just on a loop. You ask them, I answer, you say something like "ok mate, I see where you're coming from, I wish all vegans thought that way". Then a week later you ask the same question again, and the cycle continues ad nauseum.

    It's a psychological issue with you. You've told me countless times that you're on board with my take on veganism after I've explained my views.

    You've said countless times that you wish all vegans took my pragmatic approach (even though most vegans I know do). Then days later you're asking me the same questions and I give you the same answers. Even when I tell you that I've answered your questions previously you just ignore me and we have to do the same dance again over and over.

    You undoubtedly have a problem with excessive mental rumination and repetition. You display classic symptoms of OCD. It's down to you if you feel that it needs to be treated. But if I constantly feed your endless repetitive ruminations then that makes me what's known as an enabler and this won't help you.

    It also doesn't help that lately this site has so many bugs that if you post a reply to a question it can take up to three days for your reply to appear, by then your response gets totally missed. Sometimes your reply doesn't even post all. It's why I don't really post on here much anymore.
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 10:22:53 (permalink)
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    I do play devils advocate a lot on here and rub people p the wrong way a lot of times unintentionally ( apart from socialist Uriel) and trunks avoiding difficult vegan questions.
     


    You've don't rub me up the wrong way. And you don't ask difficult questions about veganism. Nothing you ask is difficult. Your questions are just on a loop. You ask them, I answer, you say something like "ok mate, I see where you're coming from, I wish all vegans thought that way". Then a week later you ask the same question again, and the cycle continues ad nauseum.

    It's a psychological issue with you. You've told me countless times that you're on board with my take on veganism after I've explained my views.

    You've said countless times that you wish all vegans took my pragmatic approach (even though most vegans I know do). Then days later you're asking me the same questions and I give you the same answers. Even when I tell you that I've answered your questions previously you just ignore me and we have to do the same dance again over and over.

    You undoubtedly have a problem with excessive mental rumination and repetition. You display classic symptoms of OCD. It's down to you if you feel that it needs to be treated. But if I constantly feed your endless repetitive ruminations then that makes me what's known as an enabler and this won't help you.

    It also doesn't help that lately this site has so many bugs that if you post a reply to a question it can take up to three days for your reply to appear, by then your response gets totally missed. Sometimes your reply doesn't even post all. It's why I don't really post on here much anymore.

    It wasn't OCD , but something similar , the need to worry about meaningless stuff to get me anxious , but thats just been in real life(work/relationships) but we never bottomed out the vegan question and it was only in a loop because you wouldnt accept the definitions without conceding the contradictions, but yeah ive seen the bug where it does not update the latest poster , its had me type out long winded replies , looked like it hadn't posted it and i have thought ah f4ckit I cant be bothered typing that again and iv'e been out . Shame really i reported that bug a long time ago.
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 11:04:05 (permalink)
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    As someone who really enjoyed comedy growing up, It really saddens me to see how it is pretty much censored out of existence now.  
     
    The BBC, which hosted some absolute legendary Comedy  (Monty Python, Not the 9 o'clock news, The Comic Strip,Young ones, Jasper Carrot ... the list is endless)  now sees annoying SJW's calling Donald Trump rude words followed by "Isn't that right Nish?" as their flagship comedy show... along with this kind of crap, of course, you understand none of it can be ACTUALLY funny in case it offends anyone 
     

     
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 11:10:00 (permalink)
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    It's almost a given that some arsehole here or there will be offended by absolutely anything, and by being offended, they think it gives them special rights or something. Stephen Fry summed it up, perfectly.
     


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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 11:15:25 (permalink)
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    They probably took offense because you come across generally like a complete to55er. When you reply to anyone on here it's always "son" or some such, if you dislike someone, eg cormier you have to call them names, calling him fat, saying he has no integrity, you generally just try to belittle. Besides the fact most of what you say is generally illegible nonsense, you clearly have large insecurities which spill out of every breath. You feel the need to put others down constantly. Very tiresome.
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 12:13:15 (permalink)
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    Fuk them, the more we ignore these cretins the sooner we can get back to a level of normality.

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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 12:19:17 (permalink)
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    They probably took offense because you come across generally like a complete to55er. When you reply to anyone on here it's always "son" or some such, if you dislike someone, eg cormier you have to call them names, calling him fat, saying he has no integrity, you generally just try to belittle. Besides the fact most of what you say is generally illegible nonsense, you clearly have large insecurities which spill out of every breath. You feel the need to put others down constantly. Very tiresome.

    I actually agree with some of your points, although i dont think im racist at all ( khaboob thread)
    I am very critical and can be a total t0sser at times and said and posted things ive almost instantly regretted with family friends and random people online.
    Im workimg on my issues tho and dont mean to make excuses. For one thingg ive never been one to dodge facing the music. Ive met people here and IRL who dont have that about them, im not blowing my own trumpet its just an observation. And to be fair youve done in this post kind of what youre criticising me for? And i get that its fine ive been a dick and im certainly not proud of it!
    Im not trying to lick your ar5e and i wouldnt expect for anyone to suddenly think im redeemed for being honest. I cant blame you at all for that and im not opposing your view? At times im a dick and its usually me that loses out. Right ill put the violin away now!
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 12:24:19 (permalink)
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    Top quality gag in my opinion, too many fairy's around nowadays. Hopefully its just the one bloke and everyone else saw the funny side of it.
     
    We've got a social media style network at work, and I get so many opportunities to take the piss its unreal, but I have to restrain myself incase I upset someone. And I work for a german company, full of german people, its almost laid out on a plate for me.
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    Ha! That must be too hard to resist, to be honest i dont post a lot on it i usually just like stuff and the 'joke' was just a quick fire response that i really didnt think was offensive. Maybe i was wrong hence the thread. I also thought that christians werent that 'hardcore' maybe thats also naive of me and just plain wrong, you live you learn? Often the hard way in my case!!!
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 16:58:30 (permalink)
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    As someone who really enjoyed comedy growing up, It really saddens me to see how it is pretty much censored out of existence now.  
     
    The BBC, which hosted some absolute legendary Comedy  (Monty Python, Not the 9 o'clock news, The Comic Strip,Young ones, Jasper Carrot ... the list is endless)  now sees annoying SJW's calling Donald Trump rude words followed by "Isn't that right Nish?" as their flagship comedy show... along with this kind of crap, of course, you understand none of it can be ACTUALLY funny in case it offends anyone 
     

     
    RIP Comedy. 
     
     
     

    Totally agree everything is taboo nowadays its like were shamed into silence? Strange times?
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    Re: Was i really being offensive? (Nothing to do with jon jones thread!) 2019/01/03 17:18:43 (permalink)
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    As someone who really enjoyed comedy growing up, It really saddens me to see how it is pretty much censored out of existence now.  
     
    The BBC, which hosted some absolute legendary Comedy  (Monty Python, Not the 9 o'clock news, The Comic Strip,Young ones, Jasper Carrot ... the list is endless)  now sees annoying SJW's calling Donald Trump rude words followed by "Isn't that right Nish?" as their flagship comedy show... along with this kind of crap, of course, you understand none of it can be ACTUALLY funny in case it offends anyone 
     

     
    RIP Comedy. 
     
     
     

    Totally agree everything is taboo nowadays its like were shamed into silence? Strange times?


    I really hope we are about to see a bit of push back on this. Its a small thing but if you are aware of various free speech advocates leaving Patreon (Jordan Peterson) recently due to them banning people as a reaction to lefty twats. I hope we see a push back. I think comedians can and will lead this as their job is being made impossible with all this BS..
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