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What does 'To Failure' mean exactly?

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2006/07/13 15:15:28 (permalink)
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What does 'To Failure' mean exactly?

I think i may not be getting the most from my workout (4 day split) as i may not be training 'hard' enough, and possibly have misinterpreted the term 'to failure'

can someone explain to me what exactly 'to fauilure' is?

How i've understood it - Say you do a 4x8 on chest. I took 'to failure' to mean 1 of two things:

1) You do 4 sets of (bench press for example) and on the last set you keep going beyond your 8 reps until you cant lift the weight anymore for love nor money! So even if you manage to somehow squeeze another 3 reps out, you did them!

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2) You vary the poundage so that the last rep on each set you can barely complete. If you can complete lift number 8 'too easily' - up the poundage until 8 is just do-able. If you can only do 7 reps then drop the poundage slightly, so that the last lift of every set is just acheiveble.

They both similar, but not identical interpretations. Is this right? or is to failure something else?

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    JayavarmanVII
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    RE: What does 'To Failure' mean exactly? 2006/07/13 15:41:59 (permalink)
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    Your over-analyzing this sh!t mate. It's not like you have to get an exact number of reps. Keep the weight the same for every set. Once you manage say 4 sets of 8, increase the weight by 2.5-5lbs at the next workout.

    Wipe the sand outta yer fanny and get in the f***ing squat rack!
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    RE: What does 'To Failure' mean exactly? 2006/07/13 16:26:16 (permalink)
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    Don't go to failure on every set. Try them on the last set.
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    RE: What does 'To Failure' mean exactly? 2006/07/13 16:30:47 (permalink)
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    Yeah, only go to failure on the last set, and failure is simply the point you cannot complete another rep (with reasonable form).

    On the last set forget about how many reps you are supposed to do, keep repping until you fail. Then next time adjust the weight so that you think that failure will occur on the last planned rep and then see what happens and adjust.
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    RE: What does 'To Failure' mean exactly? 2006/07/13 17:57:02 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: cranny

    Don't go to failure on every set. Try them on the last set.

    That tells me WHEN to go to failuire, not WHAT to failure is.

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    RE: What does 'To Failure' mean exactly? 2006/07/13 17:59:11 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: bdadavies

    Yeah, only go to failure on the last set, and failure is simply the point you cannot complete another rep (with reasonable form).

    On the last set forget about how many reps you are supposed to do, keep repping until you fail. Then next time adjust the weight so that you think that failure will occur on the last planned rep and then see what happens and adjust.

    So that's basically what i said in option 1? - this contradicts tuffnutt though, as he said forget about how many reps to do for all the sets, not just the last.

    Think im getting more confused now.

    ORIGINAL: virtuosity
    There is an excellent article here -

    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-training-past-failure.asp

    I found it very useful and implement some of the methods in my training sessions, give it a read!


    Fantastic post mate.. going to give that a read on the train home tonight! cheers!
    post edited by Magnitude - 2006/07/13 18:01:32

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    RE: What does 'To Failure' mean exactly? 2006/07/13 22:32:26 (permalink)
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    OK, i've now found out everything about what going to failure is. thanks.
    post edited by Magnitude - 2006/07/14 11:26:21
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