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What is best alternative,closest product to roids?

Hi guys,I'm looking for some help on which product out there is as close to roids in terms of effects and results.

I am 29,5'10",170 lbs with that being a solid 170,very little body fat.I'm looking to bulk up,add power to my workouts as have reached bit of a plateau.

I do understand a good diet,good training and rest is essential to results but I feel that is all ok hence me looking to a product.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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    Valley Fitness
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:09:07 (permalink)
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:09:24 (permalink)
    pro hormones bu they are also roids

    insulin

    growth hormone
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:10:12 (permalink)
    I would say nothing really, I guess the next thing down are Pro-hormones but they don't do much. AAS are AAS and that's it.

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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:12:23 (permalink)
    Vitrex?,Testosterone booster from U.S?,tribulus? - all things have considered but wanna make right choice.
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:13:58 (permalink)
    to be honest you wont find anything that comes close to using gear..

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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:15:23 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: M.M

    Vitrex?,Testosterone booster from U.S?,tribulus? - all things have considered but wanna make right choice.



    waste of money according to most people

    creatine may give you a brief bump at best otherwise if you wanna stay natural then you better get ready for years of slow progression
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:16:46 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: carl19

    pro hormones bu they are also roids

    insulin

    growth hormone

    I didn't bother with slin and HGH as if did not want AAS then he certainly did not wat these.

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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:18:31 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: M.M

    Vitrex?,Testosterone booster from U.S?,tribulus? - all things have considered but wanna make right choice.

    Thing is mate you said

    Hi guys,I'm looking for some help on which product out there is as close to roids in terms of effects and results.


    The stuff you said it rubish.

    Never show the weight that you're scared - Jay Cutler

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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:21:01 (permalink)
    Thanks for honesty,you guys dont rate Vitrex then?

    Also in short,in laymans terms what is say a cycle of sust 250 gonna do in terms of effects compared to natural?,with good diet and training obviously.

    Think alot of people just take roids without knowing exactly whats happening when they're taking em hence me asking.

    We talking more power yeah?,slowing down metabolism?,protein synthesis?.
    In laymans terms if ya can anyone taking cycle of sust 250 as example.
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:26:52 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: M.M

    Thanks for honesty,you guys dont rate Vitrex then?

    Also in short,in laymans terms what is say a cycle of sust 250 gonna do in terms of effects compared to natural?,with good diet and training obviously.

    Think alot of people just take roids without knowing exactly whats happening when they're taking em hence me asking.

    We talking more power yeah?,slowing down metabolism?,protein synthesis?.
    In laymans terms if ya can anyone taking cycle of sust 250 as example.



    , sust 250 per week will make you much bigger much faster than natural if other vvariables are good. 10 week minimum cycle most would suggest

    imo stay natural, is AAS worth the risks???
    post edited by carl19 - 2008/05/15 22:27:12
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:31:03 (permalink)
    Carl,are you natural then?,your journal's cool but bit confusing.Also what are main realistic risks with cycle of sust 250?

    Thanks.
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:37:57 (permalink)
    It depends on what you want to get out of this. Some people I know are 100% natural, they have no interest in being bigger. But I want to get bigger so the next step for me is AAS that why I'm on a cycle at the moment.

    But taking test will give you, weight gain, more vascular looking, increase strength, great pumps and a fuller looking physic

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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:42:39 (permalink)
    Thanks for that,friendly and helpful advice as always.
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 22:48:43 (permalink)
    Don't mention it mate, are you sold on the idea now?

    Never show the weight that you're scared - Jay Cutler

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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 23:02:24 (permalink)
    Uncle, it might be worth scrapping the vitriol in favour of a lean towards something less harsh- DS, for instance. It's not a case of AAS or nothing unless you're Greg Valentino
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 23:07:59 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: M.M

    Carl,are you natural then?,your journal's cool but bit confusing.Also what are main realistic risks with cycle of sust 250?

    Thanks.


    yes and my journal is pretty crap, my latest pics are at the end of page 2

    for me AAS is going to far for my goals of basically getting a well built lean body
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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 23:23:14 (permalink)

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    Uncle, it might be worth scrapping the vitriol in favour of a lean towards something less harsh- DS, for instance. It's not a case of AAS or nothing unless you're Greg Valentino

    Hmmmm still not comparable really If you want dramtic gains it AAS, HGH and slin IMO.

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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/15 23:52:58 (permalink)
    why are you wanting to avoid steroids? if its not for health reasons and purely because you dont want to get involved in underworld deals and breaking the law, the DS option is the best one IMO. you wanna make sure your sure though before going down that route as they arent to be taken lightly. they come with all the sides and health warnings as steroids do, not least because they are steroids, just legal ones.

    i'd say go check everything else out first cos you might find something thats enough. steroids cant let you skip a good diet, good sleep pattern and general good attitude. believe me i tried them with the idea in the back of my head that one plus would be that i could let my diet slip a bit and still gain loads and quickly found out it doesnt work like that, you have to tick all the boxes to get the benefits and the biggest box IMO is diet.

    ..which reminds me i must go eat so gone!

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    RE: What is best alternative,closest product to roids? 2008/05/16 09:28:47 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: carl19


    ORIGINAL: M.M

    Vitrex?,Testosterone booster from U.S?,tribulus? - all things have considered but wanna make right choice.



    waste of money according to most people

    creatine may give you a brief bump at best otherwise if you wanna stay natural then you better get ready for years of slow progression

    i found creatine crap but trib did give me a little booost but nothing like aas

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